Straw poll: do you like the lab? [UPDATED W. RESULT]

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mark1030 wrote:

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Zrevnur wrote:

There is a poll thread with lotsa votes: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665217/page/1

I think Shovelcut has already demonstrated that any positive vote in that poll automatically gets countered with negative votes so it can hardly be considered a scientific poll.

No online poll like this is going to be "scientific". There may be people deliberately sabotaging any poll (in whatever direction) anyway.
(And I dont associate 'Shovelcut' with trustworthiness.)

The thing is GGG HAS the numbers of those that will run it more than once even when there is no need to, they can tell how long it takes on average and how many deaths are caused....the poll it pointless because only the whiners will be voting against the lab, while everyone else will be playing the game and not be a bitch about it.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

The thing is GGG HAS the numbers of those that will run it more than once even when there is no need to,

I run it more than once and I complain about it. So speaking for myself those numbers would be irrelevant to determine whether I like it or not.

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IsodorRodosi wrote:

I got a lot of supporter titles.

And i Love the lab. Can you add me to your thread mr Turtledove?

I assume you mean adding you to the list? The list means that the person has posted (most likely in the Feedback and Suggestions forum) that they think the labyrinth should be fixed or changed somehow. It does not necessarily mean that the person dislikes the labyrinth game play although I have lately been ignoring the few posts from players that say they enjoy the labyrinth game play but would like something changed. Over 330 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 890 posters in support

Anyway, make such a post and if I see it then I'll add your name. I don't add names to the list just because of requests although I will happily remove anyone on the list by their request.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

The thing is GGG HAS the numbers of those that will run it more than once even when there is no need to, they can tell how long it takes on average and how many deaths are caused....the poll it pointless because only the whiners will be voting against the lab, while everyone else will be playing the game and not be a bitch about it.

i don't know about that lagwin1980. i actually like farming lab with a variety of charachters in every challenge league yet i voted no in this poll because i think there should be a checkpoint when you reach the final aspirant's trial.

i go nuts when i dc or die in the last room but i like the lab and traps. even if i dc i might take a break but always return at a later time :)

Lab is fine. Instead of posting this negativity on the forums why not try posting some actual suggestions instead? Also, the poll is heavily biased since it's posted on Reddit and because people that don't like the lab are much more likely to vote than the ones who don't.

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Cosmic711 wrote:

Lab is fine. Instead of posting this negativity on the forums why not try posting some actual suggestions instead? Also, the poll is heavily biased since it's posted on Reddit and because people that don't like the lab are much more likely to vote than the ones who don't.

It doesn't even matter where it is posted really. The OP is actively seeking out anti lab bias. I was posting here and another thread in general titled "list the reasons why you hate the lab" or whatever and after discussing how this poll is not so subtly expecting skewed results by acknowledging that the lab hate group is more active and vocal than people who are neutral or don't care in the first few pages here, they go and link this thread in that other "why do you hate lab thread"

They are not only ignoring the that their results mean jack shit if they don't account for and acknowledge bias but even actively seeking that bias out because it somehow makes the results "relevant for the devs."

It's like watching the same circle jerking you can witness daily on r/The_Donald. Doesn't matter if it's true as long as your feels are validated huh?

I like the Lab concept in principle.

However I find the Izaro fights to be much harder than the rest of the content, and the content between the fights feels more like filler than something to actually be explored.

Is anyone bothering to sort the "don't like the Lab" numbers into reasons why and what outcome they would prefer? Otherwise the data is pretty meaningless.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Cosmic711 wrote:

Lab is fine. Instead of posting this negativity on the forums why not try posting some actual suggestions instead? Also, the poll is heavily biased since it's posted on Reddit and because people that don't like the lab are much more likely to vote than the ones who don't.

You'd best get some more of your camp voting. Did you?

Why bother? The more skewed the result is, the more obvious the results are BS.