[2.6] CI FrostBlades Raider/Pathfinder [Permafreeze T15 bosses, 4:17 Shaper Run, 1:49 Chayula timer]

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Hollycz wrote:
Guys, wanna update you on what you can do with this. you can check my items too my char is public.
https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2017/04/16/bCww.png
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just did chimera with crazy mods, see screen above. Died once actually on minion phase (was lazy with flask this time around and also my ES needs some low coz got stunned often), phonix deathless, minotaur died once but thats me being stupid trying to tank it all and also used my flask too early so ... my bad. Same with hydra,died once coz im stupied and havent run it for ages... also tried face tanking it.

now im gonna go shaper and update you on it afterwards.

edit: OK shaper down. basically if you do not try to face tank it like me :D you won't die at all. dunno how invalesco kills it so quickly but thats probably those missing 700k dps that he has above mine :D
I died once again on getting stunned on his balls so i really need to increase that ES to farm t16 (killed vaal temple today deathless)


Gratz holly! Regarding shaper - ya you can facetank his beam and slam (if you've got >9.5k ES and have taste of hate up), but never try to facetank his balls. Basically if you can kill his last phase without the screen getting filled with vortexes, that means you've got enough dps. After that it's just a case of dodging his balls - a silver flask or even a quicksilver helps a lot with that. No matter how much ES u have I would still not suggest tanking the balls as the stun lock will still kill u. Either dodge the balls completely or go so close to him that ur at point blank range and he shoots the balls behind u. I usually go for the former coz the latter is too iffy.

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Raggon wrote:
Has anyone tried uber atziri? Can't really get around multristrike right?


Unlike shaper, uber atziri herself is less of a dos check and more of a mechanical skill. I find that there's no point in needlessly increasing the difficulty level by using frost blades vs her as the reflect phase is what will get you. I used frost blades for Vaal and trio and just replaced FB with blade flurry and multistrike with added fire vs her. Your dps will be gimped, that's for sure, but u don't actually need that much dps to kill atziri anyway as you can take however long u like - there won't be vortexes filling up the screen just coz ur slow. What you need to do though is dodge.

Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/24lJDdmaiKU
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Invalesco wrote:
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Hollycz wrote:
Guys, wanna update you on what you can do with this. you can check my items too my char is public.
https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2017/04/16/bCww.png
Spoiler


just did chimera with crazy mods, see screen above. Died once actually on minion phase (was lazy with flask this time around and also my ES needs some low coz got stunned often), phonix deathless, minotaur died once but thats me being stupid trying to tank it all and also used my flask too early so ... my bad. Same with hydra,died once coz im stupied and havent run it for ages... also tried face tanking it.

now im gonna go shaper and update you on it afterwards.

edit: OK shaper down. basically if you do not try to face tank it like me :D you won't die at all. dunno how invalesco kills it so quickly but thats probably those missing 700k dps that he has above mine :D
I died once again on getting stunned on his balls so i really need to increase that ES to farm t16 (killed vaal temple today deathless)


Gratz holly! Regarding shaper - ya you can facetank his beam and slam (if you've got >9.5k ES and have taste of hate up), but never try to facetank his balls. Basically if you can kill his last phase without the screen getting filled with vortexes, that means you've got enough dps. After that it's just a case of dodging his balls - a silver flask or even a quicksilver helps a lot with that. No matter how much ES u have I would still not suggest tanking the balls as the stun lock will still kill u. Either dodge the balls completely or go so close to him that ur at point blank range and he shoots the balls behind u. I usually go for the former coz the latter is too iffy.

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Raggon wrote:
Has anyone tried uber atziri? Can't really get around multristrike right?


Unlike shaper, uber atziri herself is less of a dos check and more of a mechanical skill. I find that there's no point in needlessly increasing the difficulty level by using frost blades vs her as the reflect phase is what will get you. I used frost blades for Vaal and trio and just replaced FB with blade flurry and multistrike with added fire vs her. Your dps will be gimped, that's for sure, but u don't actually need that much dps to kill atziri anyway as you can take however long u like - there won't be vortexes filling up the screen just coz ur slow. What you need to do though is dodge.

Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/24lJDdmaiKU

thanks for tips. basically shaper melted within 12 sec on each phase, didnt split in the last phase either and only got 2 vortexes on me which was due to "cover" phase that those spawned. i didnt know those balls could stun my ars so my fault (never killed shaper below, only with die and kill golem build) so considering all that did pretty good :D also missing 2 things you had. Gloves with ele weakness but most importantly i didnt have my cold resist highest (running cold-fire on same % and 2% higher is my lighting for mapping to not die on reflect and so far so good. so if I were to get additional penetration from Oak then sure thing, I am sure i would melt him faster, also totally forgot about frost bomb so my pen. was 45% only. assuming i used frost bomb and had wise oak on cold pen setup it would be around 1.45 times my damage which should be huge.

Also feel like i need to go back and get that 8% atk speed from cruel instaed of 1 skill point.

also thanks for atziri video
Do you think Raider can do all the content aswell? and how much crit chance is decent without power charges?

Thank you!
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Sivleh wrote:
Do you think Raider can do all the content aswell? and how much crit chance is decent without power charges?

Thank you!

For mapping Raider is better. For shaper and guardians I believe Pathfinder should be better due to flasks effects and also i believe you do not have a way to gain frenzy charges during fights with them. Overall whatever suits you. With PF you need to keep up ur flasks all the time coz thats your damage source and i never played Raider but you are probably faster in map clearing.

So basically its up to you. I regretted my arger to this build which was already pathfinder so i kept it. otherwise i would chose raider. on the other side some poeople who changed from PF to Raider said that PF is better.

so pick what you want. if you wanna kill shaper and guardians I'd say go pathfinder. If you wanna clear maps fast then go raider. either way you will be able to clear all content.


regarding critical chance... well with increased crit chance i run with 57.79 chance with no power charges. 38% with elemental focus. I'd say without a reliable way to gain power charges during fight quickly (I.e. skyforth) you wont run elemental focus at all. your tooltip dps is higher but if you crit only half the time you do with crit. dmg then I believe its more dmg. Also i think there is a shield giving you power charges on mine/trap skill so if you do this before shaper/guardians (there is time for that) and you have Orb of storms with power charge on crit I believe that should keep your charges up during the fights so it is a bother to do it probably but for a budget version it should be viable.
Last edited by Hollycz#4796 on Apr 17, 2017, 5:52:46 AM
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Invalesco wrote:


Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/24lJDdmaiKU


I think your curse on hit gloves were reflecting Elemental Weakness on you vs Atziri.
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p0t wrote:
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Invalesco wrote:


Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/24lJDdmaiKU


I think your curse on hit gloves were reflecting Elemental Weakness on you vs Atziri.


Yup, thats where wise oak comes in useful!
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Shapers Touch with Ele. weakness are only getting more expensive. Do you believe it's better to buy out and vaal some gloves by yourself or save up the currency?

Also correct me if I'm wrong: if I decide to vaal gloves myself is it better to level up character to 30 lvl and try my luck (removing a chance of getting higher vaal mods (3) which I do not need obviously) or Exile level has nothing to do with it but only ilvl of an item?
Hello world.
If hardcore and you only cared about not dieing, would you go Pathfinder or Raider?
Loving this build so much! I'm doing much of the crafting myself for fun and trying to enjoy it that way! I've already crafted a really awesome claw ill show it again! (Proud) :D



Anyway now I'm ripping Shapers gloves, ripped about 25ish ones now. I didn't get curse on my 26th one but I got this lol, anyone know how much these can be worth?^^

Its kinda good too I guess considering we are using both Hatred, Ash and Dici with Enlighten in gloves :P

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