[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

there's also dual wield, the harbinger belt, onslaught, attack speed on jewel.

e: also 2x ias corrupt mjolner, which I would guess will be hilariously expensive now (last league 70c rip)
Last edited by ladish on Dec 9, 2018, 1:43:35 PM
Killed uber elder with 1 death. Dodge the balls. Never move straight. ^^

https://pastebin.com/kGmG4MEy

we can reach 0.132s cd with only 1 cdr item (in our case, belt). which requires
max 3.78 aps with cyclone. I stopped at 3.5 aps and used culling strike support.

Legacy saffell's(for RF degen, did not used/cant use at the fight) and legacy TFU(with +1 end charge) are not necessary.

7 Discharges per second... the sound, the effect... my god...

I. LOVE. IT.
Have full build and lvl 87 atm in Betrayl. Somehow i feel i'm doing a lot more damage even i went full attack speed route. But on endgame bosses prolly molten strike would be better choice.
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mutiv wrote:
Killed uber elder with 1 death. Dodge the balls. Never move straight. ^^

https://pastebin.com/kGmG4MEy

we can reach 0.132s cd with only 1 cdr item (in our case, belt). which requires
max 3.78 aps with cyclone. I stopped at 3.5 aps and used culling strike support.

Legacy saffell's(for RF degen, did not used/cant use at the fight) and legacy TFU(with +1 end charge) are not necessary.

7 Discharges per second... the sound, the effect... my god...

I. LOVE. IT.


So the cyclone double hits DO trigger discharge multiple times in the attack window?
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Mastodonic wrote:
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mutiv wrote:
Killed uber elder with 1 death. Dodge the balls. Never move straight. ^^

https://pastebin.com/kGmG4MEy

we can reach 0.132s cd with only 1 cdr item (in our case, belt). which requires
max 3.78 aps with cyclone. I stopped at 3.5 aps and used culling strike support.

Legacy saffell's(for RF degen, did not used/cant use at the fight) and legacy TFU(with +1 end charge) are not necessary.

7 Discharges per second... the sound, the effect... my god...

I. LOVE. IT.


So the cyclone double hits DO trigger discharge multiple times in the attack window?


Ofcourse it does ;) You will have to drop Arc this way and use another support for Diacharge.

I did some in game testing yesterday (also Phil was kind enough and we did full shaper run - me with molten strike and he with cyclone indigon). As far as jugg goes it seems that cyclone + Elemental Equilibrium is still a way to go. I can utilise full 8 Discharges + Arcs with molten but dmg wise its not that good without EE (at least for juggernaut).

So either one should aim for near to 6 aps with cyclone and no CDR belt to utilise 6 Arcs and 6 Discharges per sec or one should drop the Arc for another Dischsrge support and than use CDR belt and aim for around 3.5 APs with cyclone (depending on CDR).
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Last edited by RicoKGB on Dec 10, 2018, 12:53:29 AM
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RicoKGB wrote:
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Mastodonic wrote:
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mutiv wrote:
Killed uber elder with 1 death. Dodge the balls. Never move straight. ^^

https://pastebin.com/kGmG4MEy

we can reach 0.132s cd with only 1 cdr item (in our case, belt). which requires
max 3.78 aps with cyclone. I stopped at 3.5 aps and used culling strike support.

Legacy saffell's(for RF degen, did not used/cant use at the fight) and legacy TFU(with +1 end charge) are not necessary.

7 Discharges per second... the sound, the effect... my god...

I. LOVE. IT.


So the cyclone double hits DO trigger discharge multiple times in the attack window?



So either one should aim for near to 6 aps with cyclone and no CDR belt to utilise 6 Arcs and 6 Discharges per sec or one should drop the Arc for another Dischsrge support and than use CDR belt and aim for around 3.5 APs with cyclone (depending on CDR).


Wew, that's great news. A budget friendly cyclone discharger. Also means you can drop the IAS gem from cyclone
Heres my problem with this build

Disclosure- Made the character in 3.5 after the most recent buffs which buffed mjolner from .5 cd to .15 cdr

Which is a big buff but doesnt even come close to bringing it back


#1 - molten strike is the only thing that can reach the max activation of 9 spells per second with 35% CDR belt/boots

If you use molten strike you cant EE since molten strike has fire dmg on it

You would have to sacrifice a support for brutality and use something else to pop EE which isnt realistic


So basically the best you're gonna get is 4-5 activation per second with cyclone and EE -50% fire/lightning res

Or you get 9 activation per second with no EE

#2 - A majority of the dps comes from RF and the lvl 20 curse

You have +1 max res and some other janky stuff and enlighten auras just to survive having RF on.

You dont map with it because you can barely sustain it but you turned it on for shaper


So the dps you post on the POB isnt realistic mapping dps, thats situational all flasks active + rf on shaper dps.


So at best you're dealing 80k X attack rate which for you is 4.61 attacks per second

So 80k x 4.6 = 368,000

Very laughable dps compared to what alot of other builds are getting now.

Worst of all this build is weaker then CoC because with CoC they now have a % more dmg multiplier

So no matter what MJOLNER cannot compete with CoC which can also run cospris malice

CoC is essentially 2x this build's dps without needing rf sustain.

Rip Mjolner still blows

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A whole bunch of pants-on-head retarded bullshit



You're math is retarded and so are you. You make assertions based on incorrect assumptions without understanding the basic mechanics at all.

1. Cyclone hits 2x per attack per second. SO you get 6 discharges per second while only need about 3.5 aps. That's the MINIMUM before cdr gear with higher aps

2. The actual shaper dps without RF is closer to 130k per discharge. At a minimum of 6 discharges per second, without RF you're looking at 780k bare minimum

3. Shaper dps is irrelevant for maps but you got everything else wrong damage wise and attack speed wise before, so you get this hilariously wrong as well. You also ignore the fact you can run arc for maps to significantly increase clear.

Feel free to edit or delete your post once you realize what an arrogant muppet you are
Would love to see this updated for 3.5. Love playing this build and the buffs seem legit as the build was still viable the last several leagues. Only seems better now.
Jugg-Mjolner-forum-post-lurker here just stopping by..

I don't get why people always bring up that "Cyclone won't be enough to proc Discharge 6 times/sec"..

Cyclone's total number of attacks is the tooltip number x 2 right?

4 APS on the tooltip/character sheet actually means a total of 8 attacks per second. Each Cyclone "revolution" makes 2 attacks on the main hand for single weapon build, or 1 attack main-1 attack offhand when dual-wielding. I'm sure I've read that somewhere before

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