Donald Trump and US politics

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Head_Less wrote:

The golf thing is shamefull when you know how much he shitted on Obama for it.

All in all I still think Trump is a better president than Hillary would ever have been, at least less dangerous for humanity. We can call Trump racist or whatever but the black are "super predators" sentence was from her not him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno




Bernie was a fool acting like a scared dog when BLM was around.
So Imo we are better with Trump and the media really love it too looking at yahoo news.

Democrats are most racist ppl ever. I'm sorta brown and they tell me I'm a traitor thinking independently. So I'm not even allowed independent thoughts how's that for stealing your identity?

All they want is state dependents for power to make their communist state. Happens to be due to white legacy money whites have more at the moment so they use identity politics and divide and conquer rather than liberty and freedom and every man is an individual to be judged on own merits like republicans.

Republicans have a unifying message. Democrats divisive (and thieves with taxes).

That said I dont really like the no free trade or zero immigration of modern republicans like Trump. Goes against liberty and freedom may best man win we should be about.

I want my old republicans back.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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JNF wrote:

Sorry, I'm not a brain-washed Bernie lover. Free college! Free medical! Free....everything! Snowflakes and unicorns!

And I rest my case regarding the 'oh well' crowd.

Yeah, same goes for the 'O'bummer-care' crowd. Sorry, I have no interest in a 50%+ tax rate while paying for some illegal's welfare-care while scraping to get by on a very modest salary. Not that you would get that.

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CanHasPants wrote:

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鬼殺し wrote:

And fuck this whole 'someone has to pay; nothing is free' crap I'm seeing as though that somehow refutes what I've said. You don't get to say that to ME here, on Path of Exile's forum. Hell, most of you are supporters yourselves, so you know fucking fully well that nothing is free but it can be made and maintained as 'free' in the immediate, voluntary sense. That is basically what we have here in Australia. Free healthcare, heavily subsidised dental, mental and optical -- but also options for private healthcare for more advanced things like having children, sports physio, etc. How someone who has played and supported PoE can't grasp this is beyond me. Maybe it's too hard to make that mental leap. A pity.

The big, and I mean big, difference is that nobody forced me to pay for my supporter packs.

This. The voluntary part of this makes it analogous to private charity, not government.

But more importantly, it dodges the problem entirely. I don't think anyone looks at healthcare and believes that the US simply can't afford the actual healthcare for its people; the problem is the ridiculous markups and price gouging. The problem isn't funding, the problem is pricing. You're distracted by a problem that doesn't exist, and ignoring the one that does.

As I've said before, the unconscious, disabled, etc, can't feasibly reject prices offered, and providers have no functional price competition as a result. Free markets require conscious customers who can take their business elsewhere; the first half of supply and demand breaks down otherwise. This is why there is a pricing problem.

Changing the funding changes nothing unless pricing changes with it. If providers remain free to change whatever they want, having the government foot the bill by itself doesn't fix a thing. Now, logically, if the government was paying they'd develop an interest about pricing, and as pointed out earlier, the government has a legal monopoly on coercive force, which can be fucking handy during pricing negotiations. But the government can use coercive power to control pricing without funding it, so funding is still only indirectly relevant — that is, if the government has an interest in keeping its money, it has incentive to keep costs down by negotiating aggressively with providers.

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鬼殺し wrote:

And why wouldn't I get that?

Sorry, I was distracted by that flashy 'Ruler of Wraeclast' title and neglected to read the rest of your post.

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Consumed by fox news & breitbart. No hope for that one :D

Consumed by NBC, MSNBC, and CNN...never stood a chance...

Speaking of which, any mention of Uranium One by CNN yet?...

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鬼殺し wrote:

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JNF wrote:

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鬼殺し wrote:

And why wouldn't I get that?

Sorry, I was distracted by that flashy 'Ruler of Wraeclast' title and neglected to read the rest of your post.

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Nope, I've just learned how to be a passive aggressive, forum pvp'er from the best. Yours truly. And if you'd like to see cowardly, I'd love to meet you face to face at any time, champ. Having served my country for four years enlisted, I'd gladly make you eat those words.

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鬼殺し wrote:

It's not that we really trust our politicians any more than you do -- it's that the system is stronger than their greed/incompetence/corruption. That is what we have faith in.

Oh, please. Obscurity should not be mistaken for security. If your governments mattered as much as mine does, they'd be corrupted too. Actually, I should say: more corrupted than they currently are.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Frankly I see the US as broken now as Russia was pre-Perestroika in its own way, buckling under the weight of its corruption, ego and greed...and about as ready for the crash-course solution as they were.

I mean, people do love The Walking Dead for a reason. The secular Flood myth, as it were. Wouldn't resonate too well in a world if there wasn't a little chaosist in people waiting to bust out.

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鬼殺し wrote:

your amendments are all about dealing with the possibility of a corrupt or tyrannical government, but were written so long ago that they've ceased to be relevant because none of it stopped that tyrannical government from happening anyway. The amazing delusion that owning enough guns will somehow help against that government when it 'comes for you'.

Per its intent, the Second Amendment should apply to tanks, rocket launchers, and nukes. However, it is obvious the Founders did not anticipate how astonishingly lethal arms of the future would become (e.g. nukes); in that sense, the Second Amendment is indeed outdated, as the premise of privately owned nuclear arms is prima facie absurd.

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鬼殺し wrote:

All you're doing when you say it's not greed but fear that keeps you from trusting how 'others spend your money' is adding a step to the process. Fear doesn't replace greed. It enables and sustains it. I won't say it's not a valid fear. I think it is very warranted right now. And that's probably the biggest, biggest problem. Corruption and mismanagement resulting from an outdated but unstoppable political machine fueled by money at the national level has led you to embrace an idea that you know best when it comes to the usage of your money -- which is, to bring it back to PoE, sort of like saying you'd know best regarding how GGG spent your support. And you can say you do but you know deep down you don't. You don't make this game; you don't devote your working lives to working on it. Same with taxes and the budget -- only difference is you (rightfully) don't trust the government to spend your contributions properly. And I'm sure there are plenty who don't trust GGG to do the same.

Your GGG analogy assumes that the only relevant uses of resources are on things GGG is assigned to accomplish. As long as GGG's scope is relatively narrow — that is, the creation of an action RPG Cookie Clicker with dark fantasy graphics and a marginally better plot, I think it's safe to assume you're correct — those who specialize in making those design decisions would become GGG staff, if they aren't already, and that expertise would be focused in one place. However, if we broaden GGG's scope to, well, everything, that no longer applies. No one can be specialists in everything. There are many non-game-design tasks at which supporters are better at allocating resources and related decisions than GGG is, which is why, to the best of my knowledge, no supoorter has given GGG literally all of their money and expected Chris Wilson to keep them warm and well-fed.

Economic specialization is the motor of civilization. It is an inherent decentralization of knowledge, with experts in one field idiots in others, but the collective stronger by having each focus in their area of expertise. This fundamentally breaks down if any one person is assumed not to be the single best decision-maker for something, or if anyone is assumed to be the single best decision-maker for everything. Thus, this trust you speak of has a specific context: niche of expertise. And the more niches a person or group of people attempts to dominate, the more deserved they are of our skepticism.

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鬼殺し wrote:

At any rate, not a single one of you has openly defended your President or your Country in this. How can you? So I congratulate you on that at least. It's a nice change of pace from the usual Trumpster rhetoric in here. He can't fix what's wrong with the US; he can and very likely will make it worse.

It's that second part that should be the focus now. I get the whole 'let's just ride it out' attitude but what should be happening now, realistically, is not 'how can we get rid of this problem?' and more 'how can we make sure this never happens again?'

Trump is but a trivial symptom of the greater illness here. Sure, I do wonder "how can we get rid of this problem? How can we make sure it never happens again?" But I'm thinking a little less about Trump and a little more about Bush-era MSM when I think that.

Can he fix what's wrong as far as that goes? No, not really. But he can smash, like the Hulk. Depending on what he's smashing...

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鬼殺し wrote:

I'm fairly convinced if you guys survive this President you're going to see a whole *bunch* of new laws and restrictions related to who can be President and what they can do while they're serving.

This would be a welcome change from the Bush and Obama administrations.