Donald Trump and US politics

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Jennik wrote:

From Trump Golf Count

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Cost to Taxpayer: At least $74,899,027

Anyone who believes Trump's doing his bullshit out of pocket is delusional. The Trumpers I've seen who even acknowledge the fact that his constant golfing will cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars (assuming justice continues to evade us and he lasts a full term) tend to handwave it away in some ridiculous fashion. God Emperor can do no wrong, after all. Their cultish thinking is disgusting.

"This page created and maintained by Sophie Germain."

What a load of crap. I'm sure that those numbers are entirely accurate and we can all trust 'Sophie Germain' (or her ass, where those numbers were likely pulled from). But the media can do no wrong. You should believe anything that's printed on 'Sophie Germain's' website. You'd have to be delusional and disgusting to believe that shit.

Oh, give me an hour or two while I create a website, throw up some numbers, and call them 'facts'.

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It was more about Trump promising to work, work, work instead of playing golf. You know... LYING A LOT

But hey, go with whatever ad hominem and deflection makes you feel better. :)

Did you Google those terms? I think you're the king of 'deflection':

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No. I was asking you. Are you a millennial?

Nothing wrong with being one, of course.

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You seem like a very angry young man. Get out, get some exercise and meet some people. Shake some hands and give out hugs. Help an elderly person at the grocery store. You'll get there.

Actually, I'm in my 30s, go to the gym every other day, and have an exceptional lifestyle. Keep on digging for a reaction. You won't get it.

One of the worst failings of Trump's cultists is their willful delusion. They have an impressive ability to deny even the most obvious aspects of reality. To visit a site that offers multiple, clear links to every source of information it uses and still mindlessly believe it's all "fake news" is an impressive feat of mental gymnastics.

It's really sad how the right formed a cult around such an evil, despicable person. Trumpers, you may want to read about cultish behavior. I know you literally can't see some of the things you're doing (believing obviously untrue things and denying obviously true things), but even you should be able to recognize much of your behavior and that of your God Emperor in the warning signs.

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@JNF

No offense intended, but in my experience Trumpers aren't really reliable in matters of truth. I don't blame them specifically, as their leader is to blame for that.

You're certainly a young man from my perspective.

Be well and strive to be better!

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Jennik wrote:

One of the worst failings of Trump's cultists is their willful delusion. They have an impressive ability to deny even the most obvious aspects of reality. To visit a site that offers multiple, clear links to every source of information it uses and still mindlessly believe it's all "fake news" is an impressive feat of mental gymnastics.

It's really sad how the right formed a cult around such an evil, despicable person. Trumpers, you may want to read about cultish behavior. I know you literally can't see some of the things you're doing (believing obviously untrue things and denying obviously true things), but even you should be able to recognize much of your behavior and that of your God Emperor in the warning signs.

Sorry, I'm not a brain-washed Bernie lover. Free college! Free medical! Free....everything! Snowflakes and unicorns!

Since January 20, 2017 The Donald has spent 1 our every four days playing golf. Over that time his clubs have charged the secret Service $137,505 to rent the golf carts they need to protect him.

Looting the government. Quite sad. Maybe they should stop protecting him while he is golfing.

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ChanBalam wrote:

Since January 20, 2017 The Donald has spent 1 our every four days playing golf. Over that time his clubs have charged the secret Service $137,505 to rent the golf carts they need to protect him.

Looting the government. Quite sad. Maybe they should stop protecting him while he is golfing.

Cool story, bro. Know how much it costs to run the military? Maybe we should stop protecting you?

The golf thing is shamefull when you know how much he shitted on Obama for it.

All in all I still think Trump is a better president than Hillary would ever have been, at least less dangerous for humanity. We can call Trump racist or whatever but the black are "super predators" sentence was from her not him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno




Bernie was a fool acting like a scared dog when BLM was around.
So Imo we are better with Trump and the media really love it too looking at yahoo news.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Insurance will always be necessary for the 'outside of the norm' situations. That's what insurance basically is. It shouldn't be the norm itself. That's like needing to getting top level car insurance if you ride a bike most of the time and only occasionally drive. And indeed we have private insurance here that is aimed at such people. It's called Basic Cover, and is there for those 'what ifs'. It's a grand or two a year. I have that, and it's covered a lot of my day surgery hospital trips these past few years. At the top end, you have the pregnancy insurance, which is a lot more expensive but covers every angle of having a baby. And when I say a lot more, I think it's 5k or so.

Do you think a privitized version of such a system would work?

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鬼殺し wrote:

Private health insurance should *NOT* be required for the basic health care even healthy humans need from time to time with the GP. I firmly believe that. And if that means lots of taxes on everything else (we pay SO much for petrol, alcohol and tobacco here), so fucking be it.

I'm ambivalent on this one. I love free market systems, but I can't in good conscience advocate for a free market in emergency care, as the unconscious are obviously not viable free market actors. Because I support at least some economic intervention by the state in emergency care, it doesn't seem necessarily wrong for the government to intervene on behalf of routine maintenance care. I would easily concede that, if emergency care is fully covered by government, then routine care should be as well; if emergencies are free to the patient and maintenance isn't, the patient is clearly incentived to ignore maintenance and drive up government payouts to emergency care, such that the government saves money overall by fully covering maintenance. It's even likely that the government saves money by fully covering maintenance when emergency care is only partially subsidized. I believe your stance is much more ideological while mine is more pragmatic, but I find it difficult to argue against such a policy.

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鬼殺し wrote:

even for the outliers, there should be programmes in place to ensure they're not being charged an arm and a leg for whatever medication they need. We have the PBS, which isn't perfect but makes sure plenty of Australians get life-saving or essential medication at $30 a month, flat. It's a pretty sad fucking set up when you can get hit with a double whammy of some weird or rare disease that you totally did not deserve AND then be expected to pay for it all out of pocket regardless of who or what you are. It's depressing enough having said condition...you don't need the added stress of financial ruin thrown on top.

This ends up going to the intellectual property rights of pharmaceutical companies. While I think some degree of rights and the defense there of are merited, I am inclined to believe the pharmaceutical industry as a megacorporate collective has abused said rights more than others have abused the infringement thereof. I'd be in favor of moderate moves at deregulating in favor of generic pharmaceuticals at the expense of proprietary pharmaceuticals, but not in favor of complete dismantlement.

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鬼殺し wrote:

ILike or not, Bernie was right when he said what he said. And he didn't say it to rub your faces in it. He said it because change needs to happen. NEEDS. A good way to start is to look at what works and learn from it. And if that doesn't work, fine. Keep researching solutions. At least you fucking tried.

A lot was wrong with Bernie's arguments, most notably the concept of healthcare as a right. But in terms of his conclusion, yes, something should be done. I'm hugely frustrated by the GOP's inability to get anything done in terms of changing healthcare. I don't think a straight repeal of Obamacare would have been enough, but at least it would have spurred some kind of replacement down the line.

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鬼殺し wrote:

America now is a nation of not-trying-at-all. Oh well. He's our president. Ride it out. Yeah, we have fatal mass shootings now and then. Oh well, that's the second amendment for you. Too many guns. Oh well.

Oh for fuck's sake. And you were doing so well.