[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide

The enchant, Summon Raging Spirit has 18% chance to summon an extra Minion... does this help clear speed while mapping noticeably?
IGN: Edgar_Ffs
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fxyo wrote:
The enchant, Summon Raging Spirit has 18% chance to summon an extra Minion... does this help clear speed while mapping noticeably?

I doubt that you'll notice much of it as it is. Before when the spirit cap was at 50 it was a pretty good enchant, but today I wouldn't say it is worth much.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Hey, i've got 92 lvl right now with this build and i've got 3 questions.

1. Is there a big difference with SRS lvl. 20 and 21?
2. Is there a big dmg boost with empower lv.4 instead of culling strike? I've heard couple of ppl that says, it's better to throw away elemental focus.
3. And last but not least question is about melee physical damage gem. Does the quality increase, that making gem "increased melee physical damage" work for skulls? I've upgraded other gems quality but not this one, and not sure if it gives us anything.

Please for an answer and thank you :)
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Linul wrote:
Hey, i've got 92 lvl right now with this build and i've got 3 questions.
1. Is there a big difference with SRS lvl. 20 and 21?
2. Is there a big dmg boost with empower lv.4 instead of culling strike? I've heard couple of ppl that says, it's better to throw away elemental focus.
3. And last but not least question is about melee physical damage gem. Does the quality increase, that making gem "increased melee physical damage" work for skulls? I've upgraded other gems quality but not this one, and not sure if it gives us anything.

1. Base srs dmg is higher 10% than lvl 20, and that additional flat scales with all our auras & effects, so yes, should be some difference noticable
2. Empower provides highest dmg possible on this build
3. Make 20% quality asap, it gives you additional 10% melee physical dmg (0.5% for every 1% quality)
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Linul wrote:
Hey, i've got 92 lvl right now with this build and i've got 3 questions.

1. Is there a big difference with SRS lvl. 20 and 21?
2. Is there a big dmg boost with empower lv.4 instead of culling strike? I've heard couple of ppl that says, it's better to throw away elemental focus.
3. And last but not least question is about melee physical damage gem. Does the quality increase, that making gem "increased melee physical damage" work for skulls? I've upgraded other gems quality but not this one, and not sure if it gives us anything.

Please for an answer and thank you :)


According to my dps spread sheet you actually get more dmg from using culling strike.

CS: 2963009 DPS
Emp4: 2924231 DPS
Emp4+CS (no EF): 2801463 DPS

These numbers are with a UiD setup.

So the pure damage between CS and Emp4 is about the same (unless you have a +1 shavs or if you use the bow setup), and your choice should come from if you want more life on your minions and if you are playing solo or in a party. In some encounters it will increase the damage as they will stay up longer before dying. The "Temple miniboss" in the end of the gauntlet in Shaper's Realm is on example where Emp4 is the best option. If you're in a party and noone else have culling strike, then CS should be the best choice. Eitherway, buy / corrupt a lvl 21 quality 20 SRS before buying an empower as it'll do more for your damage.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Last edited by Tahreyn#3190 on Apr 15, 2017, 4:52:42 AM
Okey, i've upgraded SRS to 21lvl and 20quality but when im watching video from 2.5 and killing T16 bosses im in shock. My dmg is half of yours, don't really know why ;P Im using 7 auras, not using grace yet (not sure if it even needed ;p Shouldn't some purity be better? To get more than 75 res) so i know that i can boost dmg a little with one more aura, but not so much. About jewels i've got only one jewel with minion dmg, but this two things shouldn't do your damage so high ;d im really in shock, did they change it with 2.6? Maybe srs is weaker or something

(Of course i have united in dream and 6L shavronne)
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Tahreyn wrote:
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Linul wrote:
Hey, i've got 92 lvl right now with this build and i've got 3 questions.

1. Is there a big difference with SRS lvl. 20 and 21?
2. Is there a big dmg boost with empower lv.4 instead of culling strike? I've heard couple of ppl that says, it's better to throw away elemental focus.
3. And last but not least question is about melee physical damage gem. Does the quality increase, that making gem "increased melee physical damage" work for skulls? I've upgraded other gems quality but not this one, and not sure if it gives us anything.

Please for an answer and thank you :)


According to my dps spread sheet you actually get more dmg from using culling strike.

CS: 2963009 DPS
Emp4: 2924231 DPS
Emp4+CS (no EF): 2801463 DPS

These numbers are with a UiD setup.

So the pure damage between CS and Emp4 is about the same (unless you have a +1 shavs or if you use the bow setup), and your choice should come from if you want more life on your minions and if you are playing solo or in a party. In some encounters it will increase the damage as they will stay up longer before dying. The "Temple miniboss" in the end of the gauntlet in Shaper's Realm is on example where Emp4 is the best option. If you're in a party and noone else have culling strike, then CS should be the best choice. Eitherway, buy / corrupt a lvl 21 quality 20 SRS before buying an empower as it'll do more for your damage.

What bout empower 3 over CS or EF? E.g. E3 + EF > CS + EF > EF + CS, etc etc
IGN: Edgar_Ffs
Minion skills supported now by Path of building, if some1 wants theorycraft ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/65iz9u/tool_path_of_building_v140_minion_support/
Last edited by Matematikas#6717 on Apr 15, 2017, 10:06:23 AM
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Matematikas wrote:
Minion skills supported now by Path of building, if some1 wants theorycraft ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/65iz9u/tool_path_of_building_v140_minion_support/


Came here to say the same thing. I basically have this build fully gear'd (you can see my gear above) and Path of Building has me a 91k effective DPS (including Poison). Lower than I'd thought.

Edit: Apparently it's dps per minion so 1.8 mil.
Last edited by bahamut458#4591 on Apr 15, 2017, 1:23:40 PM
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Linul wrote:
Okey, i've upgraded SRS to 21lvl and 20quality but when im watching video from 2.5 and killing T16 bosses im in shock. My dmg is half of yours, don't really know why ;P Im using 7 auras, not using grace yet (not sure if it even needed ;p Shouldn't some purity be better? To get more than 75 res) so i know that i can boost dmg a little with one more aura, but not so much. About jewels i've got only one jewel with minion dmg, but this two things shouldn't do your damage so high ;d im really in shock, did they change it with 2.6? Maybe srs is weaker or something

(Of course i have united in dream and 6L shavronne)

I think I'm using Vaal Lightning Trap instead of a cwdt setup in a few of those videos, so maybe it is that which make the difference? It really helps a lot if you want to burn down the boss.

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fxyo wrote:

What bout empower 3 over CS or EF? E.g. E3 + EF > CS + EF > EF + CS, etc etc

Only use empower if you have a level 4 version.

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bahamut458 wrote:
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Matematikas wrote:
Minion skills supported now by Path of building, if some1 wants theorycraft ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/65iz9u/tool_path_of_building_v140_minion_support/


Came here to say the same thing. I basically have this build fully gear'd (you can see my gear above) and Path of Building has me a 91k effective DPS (including Poison). Lower than I'd thought.

Edit: Apparently it's dps per minion so 1.8 mil.

I had my character from last league in PoB (before i started to "borrow" some gear from her) and that dps is at 118.5k/spirit, so close to 2.4 million dps on a non-boss target. I'm down to 91k on standard boss targets though, so it maybe was that you were looking at. It also seems like PoB doesn't have an option to include the culling strike effect into the dmg calculations, so even if the figures are lower with it they should in fact be quite similar in the end.
Builds:
[3.6] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Last edited by Tahreyn#3190 on Apr 15, 2017, 5:31:25 PM

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