[2.5] CI/LL Blight CwC Poison Vortex over 2M DPS Trivialize all content [Tri-Curse/HC Viable]

Hello Fellow Exiles,

im having some trouble getting all curses up, i took the life life variant of the build.If any of you could help me with this i would Greatly appreticate it. Below is all my current Gear

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IrecklessJ0ker wrote:

Hello Fellow Exiles,

im having some trouble getting all curses up, i took the life life variant of the build.If any of you could help me with this i would Greatly appreticate it. Below is all my current Gear

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAAceDXwOSA5cD6sQWBEtES8RUBGWFX4WvxhqGyUdTyL0JIsqOCsKLJwvbzLRNbk5UjwFPV9CekSrRUdFfkZxSRNJUUmxS65Ms1F0UlNVrlZIWAdcQF3yX2pqjGr6bAttGXC7dZ52gnpwfIN88H_GghCCm4MJhMWHZYfLieCO6Y9Gj6aP-pEHknSTH5MnlS6XlZf0mjuboZu1n9-hL6KjotmmmacIpyunm6-bsNixkLQMtNG1SLv8vorAZsM6xvfIDMgUytPPFdAf0NDVptfP2CTZE9lb34rfsOZY6QLquutj6-7sGOw47TzvfO-I7-vw1fVv-Tc=

You should have Discipline + Clarity on life (with blood magic gem), remove rallying cry (this build has already enough DPS without it) and have Blasphemy + (Warlord's Mark and Temporal Chains) + Arctic Armour on mana.

The gem setup I suggest for you:

Shav: 6L you already have
2 daggers: wither totem and whirling blades setups
Head: Blasphemy + TC + WM + AA
Boots: CWDT + Immortal Call (both lvl 20) + Increased Duration + Vaal Disci
Gloves: Clarity + Discipline + Blood Magic + Vaal lightning Trap

You already have 3 curses on your character: Vulnerability (from witchfire brew), TC and WM on blasphemy. You can't run enfeeble unless you sacrifice one of these 3.

Hey man nice build
Was just wondering in your skill tree you say to put CI but in your video you dont seem to use it because you have some life reserved
Did you find a better set up?
I might use that in new 2.6
Thx

With Pyre getting nerfed to 40% conversion from 100%, is this build even going to be possible (ignoring AOE changes)?

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Smashdev wrote:

With Pyre getting nerfed to 40% conversion from 100%, is this build even going to be possible (ignoring AOE changes)?

I think that the pyre nerf, combined with the Vortex AOE nerf, is going to nerf the build a lot.

You lose a lot of damage from lack of conversion (if you want 90% conversion you have to replace void manipulation with cold to fire, but you are losing a strong double dipping support which boosts poison damage by a substantial amount) and lot of area of effect. The impact on clearspeed could be really noticeable, single target would be probably still more than enough with conc effect, but not remotely as OP as it was in Breach.

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djnat wrote:

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Smashdev wrote:

With Pyre getting nerfed to 40% conversion from 100%, is this build even going to be possible (ignoring AOE changes)?

I think that the pyre nerf, combined with the Vortex AOE nerf, is going to nerf the build a lot.

You lose a lot of damage from lack of conversion (if you want 90% conversion you have to replace void manipulation with cold to fire, but you are losing a strong double dipping support which boosts poison damage by a substantial amount) and lot of area of effect. The impact on clearspeed could be really noticeable, single target would be probably still more than enough with conc effect, but not remotely as OP as it was in Breach.

Would it be possible to just drop Pyre, go with cold to fire, and grab Avatar of Fire for the 100% Conversion? It'd only cost 2 points to get it on the tree.

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Smashdev wrote:

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djnat wrote:

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Smashdev wrote:

With Pyre getting nerfed to 40% conversion from 100%, is this build even going to be possible (ignoring AOE changes)?

I think that the pyre nerf, combined with the Vortex AOE nerf, is going to nerf the build a lot.

You lose a lot of damage from lack of conversion (if you want 90% conversion you have to replace void manipulation with cold to fire, but you are losing a strong double dipping support which boosts poison damage by a substantial amount) and lot of area of effect. The impact on clearspeed could be really noticeable, single target would be probably still more than enough with conc effect, but not remotely as OP as it was in Breach.

Would it be possible to just drop Pyre, go with cold to fire, and grab Avatar of Fire for the 100% Conversion? It'd only cost 2 points to get it on the tree.

With avatar of fire you lose ALL the damage portions which are not fire based.

- Blight does zero damage with AoF
- Vortex does zero cold damage over time (damage over time cannot be converted in PoE) with AoF
- Vortex initial hit does 40% fire damage with two consuming darks, then the 60% remaining chaos damage is completely gone with AoF
- Atziri's flask does absolutely nothing more than giving chaos resistance with AoF
- You cannot poison with AoF

So, sadly, no, it's not possible to run this build at full potential without an at least 50% conversion Pyre.

So I played this build all through 2.5 and loved it. Was going to play it in 2.6 but now i see the massive nerf to Pyre ring (from 100% to 40%) thats so big it basically ruined going chaos. So that in mind how can we keep the play style ofthe build the same, CwC vortex and maybe making it be pure cold. What weapons/rings to run for that. also what skill would you CwC with?

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Sidefx06 wrote:

So I played this build all through 2.5 and loved it. Was going to play it in 2.6 but now i see the massive nerf to Pyre ring (from 100% to 40%) thats so big it basically ruined going chaos. So that in mind how can we keep the play style ofthe build the same, CwC vortex and maybe making it be pure cold. What weapons/rings to run for that. also what skill would you CwC with?

There is no point to CwC Vortex without poison. The damage of this spell is not in the hit - it's in the DoT due to double dipping. This means you need to use ignite or poison with it. CwC ignite doesn't make sense, so you have to CwC poison if you want to use Vortex. You can still go poison, but it will just suffer severe damage penalties unfortunately. You'll have to drop Void Maniup for Cold to Fire, and settle for only 90% cold to fire conversion. This means that you pretty much need a 6L, or you have to drop controlled destruction in the 5L which is a massive damage loss. In addition, you suffer massive AoE nerfs because you had to stack AoE in 2.5 to get a decent size. Vortex, although it is my favorite skill, is a dead skill in my eyes for 2.6. AoE nerfs, Pyre nerf and Hrimsorrow change makes it unusable as a spell as it now sports poor clearspeed and poor single target. The only saving grace would be if Hrimburn doesn't have the added cold damage to spells mod, but I doubt that is the case.

Just wanted to say thanks for writing up this guide. The build was super-fun. Sadly I barely got to play it due to picking it up quite late. And also I just bought the MTX...