[2.5] CI/LL Blight CwC Poison Vortex over 2M DPS Trivialize all content [Tri-Curse/HC Viable]

Hello,

Returning player here, thinking of respeccing my lvl85 witch into this build.

Got some basic questions, excuse my ignorance.

Is this really viable on a 5L? If it is, what would you drop, and how impactful would be the loss?

Is the upcoming nerf on Pyre a good reason to completely avoid this build?

How exactly Elemental Overload works with skills like Vortex and Blight?
With the upcoming nerf of Pyre and the AOE modifications, what do you think would be the best option to keep a fun build: more chaos, crit cold, other powerful unique combos? I would like some ideas in order to keep vortex and blight, because I have only played this amazing build for two weeks but love it a lot!
Heretic's Veil and 6L/ES are fine for now but I'm only LVL 77.
Last edited by Enucleide#0796 on Feb 23, 2017, 7:05:01 PM
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Dianabolik wrote:
With the upcoming nerf of Pyre and the AOE modifications, what do you think would be the best option to keep a fun build: more chaos, crit cold, other powerful unique combos? I would like some ideas in order to keep vortex and blight, because I have only played this amazing build for two weeks but love it a lot!
Heretic's Veil and 6L/ES are fine for now but I'm only LVL 77.

The build should be the same.

We have to see how big the pyre nerf is.

If it's a 50% nerf to conversion, you can use two pyres to achieve 100%. This will hurt your ES a bit.

Or you can use Cold to Fire instead of Void Manipulation; the ES would stay the same but the damage would go significantly down.
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Dianabolik wrote:
With the upcoming nerf of Pyre and the AOE modifications, what do you think would be the best option to keep a fun build: more chaos, crit cold, other powerful unique combos? I would like some ideas in order to keep vortex and blight, because I have only played this amazing build for two weeks but love it a lot!
Heretic's Veil and 6L/ES are fine for now but I'm only LVL 77.


Will we have the chance to re-spec after the changes?
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Nemy wrote:
Hello,

Returning player here, thinking of respeccing my lvl85 witch into this build.

Got some basic questions, excuse my ignorance.

Is this really viable on a 5L? If it is, what would you drop, and how impactful would be the loss?

Is the upcoming nerf on Pyre a good reason to completely avoid this build?

How exactly Elemental Overload works with skills like Vortex and Blight?

Yes, it's viable on a 5L right now. Just remove void manipulation from the final gem setup. The loss is impactful on single target boss fights, while it's barely noticeable for global clearspeed.


The nerf to Pyre would be an indirect nerf to damage or survivability, you choose what you want to lose.

Read my previous post for more details.

Elemental Overload triggers when one of your spells crit and gives 40% MORE elemental damage. This is applied to Vortex's base damage (which is cold) and then converted to fire and then to chaos.

So, with EO up, your Vortex initial hit will be a lot harder, thus generating better ignites and poison stacks. And the cold dot portion of the spell will be 40% higher too.
Last edited by djnat#4628 on Feb 23, 2017, 8:09:33 PM
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Nemy wrote:
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Dianabolik wrote:
With the upcoming nerf of Pyre and the AOE modifications, what do you think would be the best option to keep a fun build: more chaos, crit cold, other powerful unique combos? I would like some ideas in order to keep vortex and blight, because I have only played this amazing build for two weeks but love it a lot!
Heretic's Veil and 6L/ES are fine for now but I'm only LVL 77.


Will we have the chance to re-spec after the changes?

I think after 2.6 goes live on servers we will have a free respec on all characters.
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djnat wrote:
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Nemy wrote:
Hello,

Returning player here, thinking of respeccing my lvl85 witch into this build.

Got some basic questions, excuse my ignorance.

Is this really viable on a 5L? If it is, what would you drop, and how impactful would be the loss?

Is the upcoming nerf on Pyre a good reason to completely avoid this build?

How exactly Elemental Overload works with skills like Vortex and Blight?

Yes, it's viable on a 5L right now. Just remove void manipulation from the final gem setup. The loss is impactful on single target boss fights, while it's barely noticeable for global clearspeed.


The nerf to Pyre would be an indirect nerf to damage or survivability, you choose what you want to lose.

Read my previous post for more details.

Elemental Overload triggers when one of your spells crit and gives 40% MORE elemental damage. This is applied to Vortex's base damage (which is cold) and then converted to fire and then to chaos.

So, with EO up, your Vortex initial hit will be a lot harder, thus generating better ignites and poison stacks. And the cold dot portion of the spell will be 40% higher too.



Thanks for replying.

I don't get how missing 37% MORE chaos damage from void manipulation is barely noticeable on clearspeed, but i'll take your word for it, because i obviously don't fully understand the build yet. (elaborate if you feel like it)

How realistic is a scenario where GGG nerfs Pyre more than 50%?

I get the EO now. Such a nice node for non-crit builds..
Last edited by Nemy#7400 on Feb 23, 2017, 8:24:56 PM
The 6th link is barely noticeable because trash mobs usually die so fast in maps that you'll really feel the addition of void manipulation only in boss fights.

Remember that this is an Occultist, the damage of Vortex is immense at the moment and with profane bloom you generate a chain reaction when things start dying which clears entire screens of mobs.
Last edited by djnat#4628 on Feb 23, 2017, 9:28:32 PM
This may be a dumb question but I notice the only leech is your Atziri flask which is marked as recommended and not required. Do you take leech from other sources for VP/GR if not using Atziri's flask or is Atziri's flask pretty much mandatory? Or perhaps I am missing something?

Thank you
Can you guys tell me what i can improve more on my build?The only thing that comes to my mind is getting more es, especially on my helm(got some bad rolls but i needed the resistances and saced the es for the enchant dmg)
I struggle on shaper since the dmg seems pretty low.It may me being bad with him who knows.

Here's my character link:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/boonobosMike/characters

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