[2.5] CI Witch Scorching Ray CWC Whispering Ice - Version 2.0 Released - Now with more damage!

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stred_ wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

Last but not least, while I really do think what I run is best in slot version - it is also VERY gear dependent - you need:
a good +1 curse neck
leech enchant on boots or warlord's mark enchant on head
pretty perfect jewels/jewelry to sort the lack of str/dex without astramentis

and that on top of all the int/es requirements, it's not cheap thing to do.

so it's more of a "if you have the currency to waste, give it a try and you will like it better" thing!

hey falagar glad to cu back :)

i agree that this isnt a cheap build, still trying to find a decent logically priced +1 curse amulet myself or craft one..

also in the positive side is that it's the 1st build i managed to kill shaper and hall of grandmasters, i didn't even bother to change auras, take purity or something like that..

atlas 124/126 baby! :)

Hey :)

To be fair the reason it is expensive is mostly because mathil and him making the other int build (HowA thingy) so popular. That and it being an ES build and everyone playing ES :(

I was really fortunate to get most of my gear before he streamed the build at a decent price.

You can forget about crafting (and I've tried buying all good int necks and vaaling myself!) it is literally 1:167 chance to get it......

However there is a way... be it also rng (but less) - you can run oba's cursed troves and vaal the unique jeweller box at the end. If you run enough of them you are bound to get a few white +curse necks (and maybe even a decent rare one)

Then you can take a white +1 curse neck to lab layout with lead to gold shrine, that upgrades a random white item in your inventory to rare, regardless of corruption. So if that +1 curse neck is the only white item in your inventory when you use it, you get a random rare +1 curse neck.

Bonus as if a layout has that shrine you can run it as many times as you want that day, and also upgrade the white +endurance charge belts etc that you are bound to get farming oba's.

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I should mention I did this a few leagues ago when oba's were 4~5c a map, ran over 400 of them (leveled a char from 80 to 93 and a char from 93 to 97 JUST doing oba!) and made over 150ex profit doing so, it's a good place to farm even at current map prices.

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falagar112 wrote:

You can forget about crafting (and I've tried buying all good int necks and vaaling myself!) it is literally 1:167 chance to get it......

However there is a way... be it also rng (but less) - you can run oba's cursed troves and vaal the unique jeweller box at the end. If you run enough of them you are bound to get a few white +curse necks (and maybe even a decent rare one)

Then you can take a white +1 curse neck to lab layout with lead to gold shrine, that upgrades a random white item in your inventory to rare, regardless of corruption. So if that +1 curse neck is the only white item in your inventory when you use it, you get a random rare +1 curse neck.

Bonus as if a layout has that shrine you can run it as many times as you want that day, and also upgrade the white +endurance charge belts etc that you are bound to get farming oba's.

ok have to admit 10 lines full of usefull information! didnt know that shrine in lab can do that!

Well 1:167 isnt so bad imho in the long run..

are you gonna stick to this build in the legacy league?

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stred_ wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

You can forget about crafting (and I've tried buying all good int necks and vaaling myself!) it is literally 1:167 chance to get it......

However there is a way... be it also rng (but less) - you can run oba's cursed troves and vaal the unique jeweller box at the end. If you run enough of them you are bound to get a few white +curse necks (and maybe even a decent rare one)

Then you can take a white +1 curse neck to lab layout with lead to gold shrine, that upgrades a random white item in your inventory to rare, regardless of corruption. So if that +1 curse neck is the only white item in your inventory when you use it, you get a random rare +1 curse neck.

Bonus as if a layout has that shrine you can run it as many times as you want that day, and also upgrade the white +endurance charge belts etc that you are bound to get farming oba's.

ok have to admit 10 lines full of usefull information! didnt know that shrine in lab can do that!

Well 1:167 isnt so bad imho in the long run..

are you gonna stick to this build in the legacy league?

Totally undecided/never decide until patch notes are live at least :)

There's a good chance I will, but it will probably be my 2nd character just like this league as it requires a little investment to get it going as you noticed!

Usually my first char is something that is cheap and good at either farming atziri or (uber) labs to get the currency going. Played a righteous fire char first this league for that purpose, and might try a queen of the forest blast rain totem or something this league to repeat that but with actual running speed, lol.

Then when I got some currency I buy whatever I actually want to play and level a char for it :)

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if I do end up playing this again, it will be on a berserker most likely to give that a try, might be better, probably is!

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falagar112 wrote:

Totally undecided/never decide until patch notes are live at least :)

There's a good chance I will, but it will probably be my 2nd character just like this league as it requires a little investment to get it going as you noticed!

Usually my first char is something that is cheap and good at either farming atziri or (uber) labs to get the currency going. Played a righteous fire char first this league for that purpose, and might try a queen of the forest blast rain totem or something this league to repeat that but with actual running speed, lol.

Then when I got some currency I buy whatever I actually want to play and level a char for it :)

i agree patch notes are important though i dont expect to change much in this build.

personally for me that have so limited time for temp leagues, a ranger build with barrage/tornado shot/lighting arrow is far more enjoyable for starting a league.. CI or not is the only Question rly..

this build is a little slow in clearing speed unfortunately

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stred_ wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

Totally undecided/never decide until patch notes are live at least :)

There's a good chance I will, but it will probably be my 2nd character just like this league as it requires a little investment to get it going as you noticed!

Usually my first char is something that is cheap and good at either farming atziri or (uber) labs to get the currency going. Played a righteous fire char first this league for that purpose, and might try a queen of the forest blast rain totem or something this league to repeat that but with actual running speed, lol.

Then when I got some currency I buy whatever I actually want to play and level a char for it :)

i agree patch notes are important though i dont expect to change much in this build.

personally for me that have so limited time for temp leagues, a ranger build with barrage/tornado shot/lighting arrow is far more enjoyable for starting a league.. CI or not is the only Question rly..

this build is a little slow in clearing speed unfortunately

It's not so much the build as it is channeling skills in general - it just slows things down considerably. Though... CwC is by far not as bad as traps/mines imo - nothing is worse as being able to run and kill faster but having to wait for trap charges... lol

Anyways I never played this but one does not argue with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOz88Txf0xA

mind you that is only good at doing uber labs and not much else obviously :P
but its amazing to get some currency fast at early league by making it your first char.

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falagar112 wrote:

It's not so much the build as it is channeling skills in general - it just slows things down considerably. Though... CwC is by far not as bad as traps/mines imo - nothing is worse as being able to run and kill faster but having to wait for trap charges... lol

Anyways I never played this but one does not argue with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOz88Txf0xA

mind you that is only good at doing uber labs and not much else obviously :P
but its amazing to get some currency fast at early league by making it your first char.

lol epilepsy build!

yeah channeling skills have a delay, except blade flurry builds maybe

So i wanted ask to OP what does he think about this build in 2.6? i wanna do this build once again is it still legit?

So what do u think after pyre gets nerfed to 40% conversion now?

@Above 2 questions:

Yes still viable, and you will have to use AoF+CtF to convert.

so next patch you will need to cold to fire+AoF to convert but already was using that so I don't mind.

area nodes being nerfed a little does not affect us at all - if anything it is a minor single target buff (smaller radius=more hits on ST)

so no worries, build is perfectly legit with some minor changes.

They did however not nerf HOWA build either, so expect ES+INT gear to cost an arm and a leg again.