[2.5] CI Witch Scorching Ray CWC Whispering Ice - Version 2.0 Released - Now with more damage!

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Icemasta wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

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Icemasta wrote:

How do you proc Mastermind of discord 25% fire penetration? CWDT does not proc it and in your gem setup, you do not have any useable lightning gems.

You don't bother unless it's a hard boss - on which you swap out of cwdt+ball lightning and use orb of storms (+empower) instead, it will give you 100% uptime. Alternatively, use a vaal lightning trap.

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WinspreeGG wrote:

hi its the first time im posting in this forum and yeah, how do i improve my witch? im lvl 90 and i can face tank chimera but thats all... what am i doing wrong? compared to the minotaur video, its like im tickling him or sth.. help anyone?

Bad chest, no astramentis/doedre's for 3rd curse, missing black sun crest, missing a ton of int on your gear. I'm suprised you can even kill chimera tbh. Have a look at my profile to see what you can improve (go for astramentis+doedre ring if you cannot find a good +1 curse corrupted neck with lots of int)

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Heding wrote:

Hmm my curse dont casting from my chest cast then dmg taken - curse on hit - baal lightining - enfeemble - ice nova. baal lightining and ice nova casting then mobs hiting me but curse dont working ((

Can't answer as your profile is private. I have a feeling your curse is to low level (below cwdt treshold) - level it higher and it should fix itself. Remember to keep your cast on damage taken on level 1 and your ball lightning on level 4.

Alright thanks, also, why Ice Golem instead of Lightning Golem? On one hand you could proc Mastermind of Discord by casting the Lightning golem, it gives use cast speed which means faster turn. Ice Golem gives us crit chance that we don't really need.

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DreadnoughtJnr wrote:

i just randomly 6l'd a WI and wondered if theres any use for this. So my question is what would i put in my 6l WI if i want to do Scorching Ray cwc Wi?

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Crazyblue66 wrote:

Hi, i've just seen this build and i'm pretty interrested in it but i would like to know for the gears and gems setup if i should follow the build one or falagar one. What are the principle difference between them and wich one is more viable for endgame content ?
Thanks in advance

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falagar112 wrote:

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Crazyblue66 wrote:

Hi, i've just seen this build and i'm pretty interrested in it but i would like to know for the gears and gems setup if i should follow the build one or falagar one. What are the principle difference between them and wich one is more viable for endgame content ?
Thanks in advance

His build relies on ES passives, dps curse and dps passives to get the surviveability and dps up.
Mine runs pure INT for dps/surviveability, and 3 defensive curses (1 more as OP)

Mine reaches bigger numbers and is the safer option - and is a little easier on required lab enchants imo, I've done a lot of testing and started out as OP build as well.

I'm getting almost twice the tooltip dps of OP, but I do have less ES (but have enfeeble/temp chains to make up for it - with those and flasks, shaper smash hits for 5.4k)

As for endgame - the best option is playing my build but playing it on an inquisitor instead. You won't get reflect immunity but its ascendancies are better for facetanking guardians/shaper.

You can play my build on elementalist (reflect immunity, can facetank atziri mirror), scion (hardest to gear but best INT), inquisitor (best boss killer) and berserker (hard to get ES up, but quite good if you can)

Picking between those classes is purely a matter of preference, I preferred not having to reroll so many maps, so went with elementalist, with this class you can run every map mod in game (though I would still avoid no leech!) - the other classes are a little trickier and you have to skip ele reflect maps.

Last but not least, if you do decide on OP his build, take the unwavering stance beta build.

If you decide on mine, my profile is public - and feel free to ask questions.

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Crazyblue66 wrote:

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falagar112 wrote:

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Crazyblue66 wrote:

Hi, i've just seen this build and i'm pretty interrested in it but i would like to know for the gears and gems setup if i should follow the build one or falagar one. What are the principle difference between them and wich one is more viable for endgame content ?
Thanks in advance

His build relies on ES passives, dps curse and dps passives to get the surviveability and dps up.
Mine runs pure INT for dps/surviveability, and 3 defensive curses (1 more as OP)

Mine reaches bigger numbers and is the safer option - and is a little easier on required lab enchants imo, I've done a lot of testing and started out as OP build as well.

I'm getting almost twice the tooltip dps of OP, but I do have less ES (but have enfeeble/temp chains to make up for it - with those and flasks, shaper smash hits for 5.4k)

As for endgame - the best option is playing my build but playing it on an inquisitor instead. You won't get reflect immunity but its ascendancies are better for facetanking guardians/shaper.

You can play my build on elementalist (reflect immunity, can facetank atziri mirror), scion (hardest to gear but best INT), inquisitor (best boss killer) and berserker (hard to get ES up, but quite good if you can)

Picking between those classes is purely a matter of preference, I preferred not having to reroll so many maps, so went with elementalist, with this class you can run every map mod in game (though I would still avoid no leech!) - the other classes are a little trickier and you have to skip ele reflect maps.

Last but not least, if you do decide on OP his build, take the unwavering stance beta build.

If you decide on mine, my profile is public - and feel free to ask questions.

Thank you for replying, i'm more interrested in your build, but you said that you have less es does it mean that you can eventually get one-shot or is it still safe to play ?

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Crazyblue66 wrote:

I decided to use your build and it's going great so far but i have a few questions about it

Why do we use flame dash instead of leap slam ?
Wouldn't leap slam be better for clearing because we're not limited ?

I suppose that for bosses combats we replace increased area of effect gem by concentrated effect gem

Concerning flasks, wouldn't be a flask of immunity of ignite or shock be more beneficial than against curses ?

Sorry i started the game not long ago so i lack knowledge
Thanks in advance

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puffelf wrote:

I can get CWDT to trigger ball lightning or whatever other spell, but that spell never triggers Curse on Hit + Curse... am I doing something wrong?