[2.5] CI Witch Scorching Ray CWC Whispering Ice - Version 2.0 Released - Now with more damage!

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NoDiscoSisqoOrCalypso wrote:
Falagar, your updated skilltree that takes the gemlink change into consideration and drops
celestial punishment, has almost no ES nodes. neither the one at witch start nor the ones near scion.
is that because with the INT , our defense is scaled enough and well how much ES do you have on your char ? i want to play this build in HC. thx for the answer.


Correct - I specced out of them because of wanting more INT. Every int gives us es% as well.

To answer your question more precisely:

Level 96, gear in spoiler below. 9k ES, 1600 INT (no level 21 disc, and my gear can improve on flat ES as you see) - 10.4k tooltip. (Using the 150 boots atm, with the other boots it is ~9.3k)

gear


Mind you, it is quite the downgrade on ES, but remember I use enfeeble/temp chains, which give a lot of dmg reduction on mobs. Having played both OPs build (11k ES) and my own, I feel my own is saver. I haven't died much, if at all, since I respecced into these changes. No deaths from 93 to 96.

edit: 2nd helm is for if I want to run purity of ice (hydra, shaper) -> I can put warlord's mark + orb of storms instead of cwdt+ball lightning in chest, and save the mana to run a purity in my headpiece.
Last edited by falagar112#0878 on Jan 14, 2017, 3:04:10 PM
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Gopstop22 wrote:
I dont get it so i dont need 6L staff but 4L? I wanna try this build but i never have used this sorching ray skill before also i was thinking i could use my templar gears for this build so i wont need invest much



Bad idea, your linked gear hardly has any INT, and that is most important stat for us. You could have a 1000 ES chest, but without INT it will be a million times worse as a 600 ES chest with a t1 int roll.

You don't even need a 4 link, you need a 2 or 3 link (3 is slightly more dps) - scorching ray+cast when channel+(elemental focus) - and the reason is that any item that gives you a skill, takes all sockets on the skill regardless of what you linked. Because ray isn't on the item, you need it linked with cwc, and because icestorm is on the item, all 6 sockets benefit it.
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Gopstop22 wrote:
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NoDiscoSisqoOrCalypso wrote:
Falagar, your updated skilltree that takes the gemlink change into consideration and drops
celestial punishment, has almost no ES nodes. neither the one at witch start nor the ones near scion.
is that because with the INT , our defense is scaled enough and well how much ES do you have on your char ? i want to play this build in HC. thx for the answer.


I want play this build HC too so hopefuly he will answer


See 2 posts above.

I don't play hardcore because my PC is bad (game crashes, low fps at times, and no SSD) - but I'll be honest - if you know game/boss mechanics & don't take silly risks (I'm kinda a yolo person, comes with playing non HC haha) - it is perfectly viable for HC. Quite faceroll actually ;)

Imo hardest part is to get to 38, after that, it is game over :)

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avoid hexproof and no leech maps of course, that should be self explainatory

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also, in case someone wondered. With a ruby flask+purity of fire, you can AoE down (uber) atziri splitphases. Yes you can dps through mirror reflect :))
Last edited by falagar112#0878 on Jan 14, 2017, 3:08:06 PM
also why conc effect? I thought it doesnt increase your damage for Scorching Ray atleast thats what i readed on internet?
[Scorching Ray + Cast when Channeling + Controlled Destruction] + Life Leech + Conc Effect + Fire Penetration

Only SR, CWC and EF has to be linked, since Scorching ray doesn't get any effect of the 3 ladder support gems.



Having trouble understanding this. Do we want SR linked with CD or EF?
Is Temporal chains such a big deal? I'm currently using Flammabilty as a third curse and am not confident about being able to take on Shaper. Also, 10k tooltip? I get 6k with 1300 int, whut. Where di you get all that additional damage?
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Karisma91 wrote:
[Scorching Ray + Cast when Channeling + Controlled Destruction] + Life Leech + Conc Effect + Fire Penetration

Only SR, CWC and EF has to be linked, since Scorching ray doesn't get any effect of the 3 ladder support gems.



Having trouble understanding this. Do we want SR linked with CD or EF?


You don't use CD at all, it was replaced by EF.

Links are Scorching Ray+Cast when Channeling+Elemental Focus (link these 3) + conc effect + fire pen + life leech.

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Gopstop22 wrote:
also why conc effect? I thought it doesnt increase your damage for Scorching Ray atleast thats what i readed on internet?


You use it for Icestorm, which is your main dmg.

You are correct it does not affect scorching ray, so you don't have to link it. See above.

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Inkaflare wrote:
Is Temporal chains such a big deal? I'm currently using Flammabilty as a third curse and am not confident about being able to take on Shaper. Also, 10k tooltip? I get 6k with 1300 int, whut. Where di you get all that additional damage?


I love temporal chains, with enhance it is almost at 50% slow - which also affects boss swing animations. It makes dodging bad stuff all that much easier. Enfeeble is the best dmg prevention curse, so you are right, if you want more dps, you can swap temp chains to flammability. Don't replace enfeeble, it is amazing.

As for damage, I have 1600 int, 300 more then you. I also have like 8 jewels. You can check these yourself, my profile is public.

As for Shaper - replace cwdt+ball lightning with warlord's mark+orb of storms. No recoloring needed. It will save you blasphemy mana, which allows you to use purity of ice. Which makes Shaper a lot easier. You can do the same with purity of fire for (uber) atziri.

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before it gets asked - that dps is with golems in hideout. With flasks up it goes to around 12k.
Last edited by falagar112#0878 on Jan 14, 2017, 6:11:28 PM
Ok last question how do you activate elemental overloard thing? it says 40% more elemental damage if you crit in the past 8 seconds but scorching ray cant crit...
ok thx for the help. finaly done chayula in time, all content clear! first time i ever achived this with 1 build^^

but i have 1 sugestion you can take the minion life recovery node by the templar is 1 point but saves a lot of resummuning^^

thx for the help everyone!
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Gopstop22 wrote:
Ok last question how do you activate elemental overloard thing? it says 40% more elemental damage if you crit in the past 8 seconds but scorching ray cant crit...

Even if Scorching Ray doesn't crit, Icestorm certainly does. You should have 100% uptime on Elemental Overload at all times with 0 issues.

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