Lab Pollpendium - With Fraud Detection

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The_Reporter wrote:

I'm not like those guys. I gain NO pleasure from another user's misfortune. Don't tell me I'm going to gain some sick satisfaction from that guy's posting here.

What misfortune? The misfortune of not liking some content in a game?

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Nykken wrote:

Lab is objectively better designed than most of the main story content.
Challenges are more telegraphed yet still more difficult, the payoff is more rewarding, the lore is more easily consumed, and the experience is more varied.

Lab and trials are more easily cheesed and bought through than any main story content making it a non-challenge and not difficult at all.

Lore is overshadowed by frogger & mario bro's style platforming presented in an imprecise unoptimized setting.

It requires way more effort to be bought through Lab than any other piece of content in the game.

"cheesing" aka "finding imaginative solutions to a problem through lateral thinking" is not a negative.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Jgizle wrote:

1. If you dont want to click the links just post your responses here. I got no reason to put malware in a fake poll, that i do not host and have no control over other than the questions and the choices.

2. The goal of the post is to make more specific changes to lab easily identified for GGG without having to take what little time they have to read through hundreds of pages of responses on the topic. Even if onlyba minority wants changes, the small changes can easily be implemented if GGG feelsnit would improve the gaming experience for the entire community as a whole.

3. The point of the poll is not to generalize the resilts as a representation of the entire community. Its to label specific areas of improvement to make it quite clear what specifically is disliked. Then GGG can make changes as needed.

The poll is useless. The results are not random and the administration of the poll is not a trusted source. The actual destination URL's for the links are hidden and clicking on such links is a poor and dangerous idea.

Links are hidden for security reasons. This is the most accurate poll ever. It is uncorruptable even with cheaty programs. Once you vote, thats it. Unlike the other poll, this one id accurately representative of those willing to vote, unlike the other one which was obviously rigged to make it seem like the vocal minority was much larger than in reality.

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Jgizle wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Jgizle wrote:

1. If you dont want to click the links just post your responses here. I got no reason to put malware in a fake poll, that i do not host and have no control over other than the questions and the choices.

2. The goal of the post is to make more specific changes to lab easily identified for GGG without having to take what little time they have to read through hundreds of pages of responses on the topic. Even if onlyba minority wants changes, the small changes can easily be implemented if GGG feelsnit would improve the gaming experience for the entire community as a whole.

3. The point of the poll is not to generalize the resilts as a representation of the entire community. Its to label specific areas of improvement to make it quite clear what specifically is disliked. Then GGG can make changes as needed.

The poll is useless. The results are not random and the administration of the poll is not a trusted source. The actual destination URL's for the links are hidden and clicking on such links is a poor and dangerous idea.

Links are hidden for security reasons. This is the most accurate poll ever. It is uncorruptable even with cheaty programs. Once you vote, thats it. Unlike the other poll, this one id accurately representative of those willing to vote, unlike the other one which was obviously rigged to make it seem like the vocal minority was much larger than in reality.

Your poll is not random, on top of that you've made it clear that you're willing to say or do anything to get your way. You are far from trustworthy. Under the best circumstances, it is no more accurate than the polls we have. This is far from the best circumstances. Plus the hidden links can be changed at anytime that could go to a malware site.

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Jgizle wrote:

This is the most accurate poll ever.

Ballot stuffing isn't the main reason that internet polls are bad polls.
Internet communities simply aren't representative of the main population. Unless the internet community IS the population then an internet poll is useless.

Is this a sexcalibur homage?

Peace,

-Boem-

Believe what you want. Clearly you dont know how links work. I do not have access to those shortened links. Once the poll is made you can only access the results.

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Jgizle wrote:

Links are hidden for security reasons. This is the most accurate poll ever. It is uncorruptable even with cheaty programs. Once you vote, thats it. Unlike the other poll, this one id accurately representative of those willing to vote, unlike the other one which was obviously rigged to make it seem like the vocal minority was much larger than in reality.

Well see the problem here is that this "most accurate poll ever" poll's results pretty much mirror the strawpoll.

So maybe we can just accept that people don't like lab now as fact, and that the strawpoll wasn't "rigged" as you say it was, or do we have to go to "you must msg me to vote" as the next poll? I wonder how many polls there will be before people accept the facts? As if the threads here and on reddit weren't indication enough.

Personally, I don't feel like this poll is any more or less valid than the strawpoll. If I wanted to, I could easily spam vote this poll just like any strawpoll, but let's not go into that. I'd tell you it's time for you people to wake the fuck up, but honestly I'm pretty sure we all knew the "supporters" of lab were really just profiting from lab runs to begin with.

"Vocal minority", lol.

Let me ask you what is the DISADVANTAGE of moving ascendancy points somewhere that isn't lab? Why does making lab optional result in POE being a worse game than it currently is? Provide me a reason. Lab could just as well become a unique map or optional side area and the game would be no worse off for it, the content would still be there, and ascendancy points wouldn't be gated behind shitty platformer mechanics nobody plays ARPG's for.