Daily reminder that MF is an outdated mechanic and needs to leave.

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I_NO wrote:

As much as I like crushing the market and making it into my bitch aka like you know

Some of you honestly think this is actually okay? You want drops to be dogshit unless you wear dogshit gear to do the hardest shit in the game which is well obviously not going to happen not with my build anyway.

With your opulence, anything which drops would be dogshit.

I don't think droprates should be made low because trading is powerful. I think trading should be made powerful by making droprates low. If you could just farm up everything you needed with relative ease, then what incentive is there to crush them markets?

Ah sigh.

I'll just fucking dream a dinosaur will just fucking dream.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

As much as I like crushing the market and making it into my bitch aka like you know

Some of you honestly think this is actually okay? You want drops to be dogshit unless you wear dogshit gear to do the hardest shit in the game which is well obviously not going to happen not with my build anyway.

With your opulence, anything which drops would be dogshit.

I don't think droprates should be made low because trading is powerful. I think trading should be made powerful by making droprates low. If you could just farm up everything you needed with relative ease, then what incentive is there to crush them markets?

what about solo self found players, why you want to penalize them ?

I you want to make trade powerful why not vendor every other good item you find? this way you will lower your droprate and enjoy your trading.

I would much rather see less mandatory trading and more ingame drops.

Still i do not agree that MF should go, its a great risk vs rewards system, that let people choose if they either want to clear fast or take it slower with maybe even different build but in return get really nice drops and a lot of it

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I_NO wrote:

I just wanna find my own shit =/ instead of doing this I only and only do this because it's necessary like I'm not going I'M A FUCKING REBEL AND WON'T TRADE naw I'm not like that if it's necessary I'll fucking do it.

Just play self found for a league, it's really easy actually. I got to level 94 with my first try on HC before I got too bored.

Naw I don't do that I don't purposely handicap myself like that stuff it's just not what I do lol

Yes, because getting handed currency and items from your guild is so much more skill intensive.

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TheNippleman wrote:

Yes, because getting handed currency and items from your guild is so much more skill intensive.

LOL you think my guildies magically give me items? I'm not even an officer out here I'm more of a social member if anything.

Be like SNAP OF MY FINGER give me yo shit guildie I'm the same rank as you yeah good stuff guy good stuff.

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I_NO wrote:

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TheNippleman wrote:

Yes, because getting handed currency and items from your guild is so much more skill intensive.

LOL you think my guildies magically give me items? I'm not even an officer out here I'm more of a social member if anything.

Be like SNAP OF MY FINGER give me yo shit guildie I'm the same rank as you yeah good stuff guy good stuff.

Relax dude, I'm just trolling you. I know some streamers who do just get handouts to start running the gun, but you from what I have seen never had.

You are just arguing about an event that probably effects 5% (and that's me being generous) of the total players who play PoE. Shaper clearly wasn't meant to be farmed unless you are EG, and not wanting to build another char. Most people just farm mid tier yellows or Merc Malachai.

Want to get rid of something? Do stun recovery. Useless stat considering half chars have something that makes them stun immune anyway.

from some of your posts, you claim to have the best gear in the game and enough orbs to get what you might want for any build including MF

I personally notice a difference with IIQ, not so much IIR

If your complaint is with the lack or uniques droppings or mirrors then thats RNG and no amount of MF/IIR will matter.

If you want to improve your chances of GG items dropping then increase your IIQ, pretty simple

Broken mechanic you claim? then dont use it and move on - i appreciate IIQ

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Miazga wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

As much as I like crushing the market and making it into my bitch aka like you know

Some of you honestly think this is actually okay? You want drops to be dogshit unless you wear dogshit gear to do the hardest shit in the game which is well obviously not going to happen not with my build anyway.

With your opulence, anything which drops would be dogshit.

I don't think droprates should be made low because trading is powerful. I think trading should be made powerful by making droprates low. If you could just farm up everything you needed with relative ease, then what incentive is there to crush them markets?

what about solo self found players, why you want to penalize them ?

No. And I'm an advocate for smarter vendor offers for "tradeable" items to help self-found players. It'd be nice if an item which easily trades for several Exalts at least vendors for a fistful of Chaos. If you're a relentless min-maxer, trading would still be "mandatory" (meaning: optimal), but it would be less so; the opportunity cost of selling gear would decrease.

That's an actual, targeted solution, with modular implementation... as opposed to a blanket bribe.

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Miazga wrote:

I would much rather see less mandatory trading and more ingame drops.

Again, increasing overall droprate solves nothing. See math on previous page.

I don't think droprates should be tuned for the endgame farming stage, but for the racing style of play. And as low as reasonable given that standard. The end of farming progression is when you have everything. Using my earlier example, once the random number between 1 and 1 billion actually is 1 billion, it's over; all gains stop. It's critical to delay that as much as possible.