[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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Aziah wrote:


Can the raider perform with the king of the forest build to close to the same potential or is that 100% asendancy node too good?

Feel so lost right now in my raider doing the signal shot build the king of the forest I ran many of times and I love it but I wanted something a bit different but feels weak compared to KotF


Sorry for the late response. Raider is definetly not that much weaker. As said you might notice a bit dmg loss at the top tier bosses but i did beat them all in breach without issues. It struggles the same as Assassin with no instant leech etc (OP posted a variation with belly, vaal pact etc which might be better for boss killing overall)

If you aim for more mapping raider would be my go to choice. And for Ulab there is no difference, Izaro is such an easy boss that he dies in a couple of seconds on both builds and raider ascendency helps getting more movement speed during the run.
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leglerm wrote:
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Aziah wrote:


Can the raider perform with the king of the forest build to close to the same potential or is that 100% asendancy node too good?

Feel so lost right now in my raider doing the signal shot build the king of the forest I ran many of times and I love it but I wanted something a bit different but feels weak compared to KotF


Sorry for the late response. Raider is definetly not that much weaker. As said you might notice a bit dmg loss at the top tier bosses but i did beat them all in breach without issues. It struggles the same as Assassin with no instant leech etc (OP posted a variation with belly, vaal pact etc which might be better for boss killing overall)

If you aim for more mapping raider would be my go to choice. And for Ulab there is no difference, Izaro is such an easy boss that he dies in a couple of seconds on both builds and raider ascendency helps getting more movement speed during the run.


Thanks for the response
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leglerm wrote:
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Aziah wrote:


Can the raider perform with the king of the forest build to close to the same potential or is that 100% asendancy node too good?

Feel so lost right now in my raider doing the signal shot build the king of the forest I ran many of times and I love it but I wanted something a bit different but feels weak compared to KotF


Sorry for the late response. Raider is definetly not that much weaker. As said you might notice a bit dmg loss at the top tier bosses but i did beat them all in breach without issues. It struggles the same as Assassin with no instant leech etc (OP posted a variation with belly, vaal pact etc which might be better for boss killing overall)

If you aim for more mapping raider would be my go to choice. And for Ulab there is no difference, Izaro is such an easy boss that he dies in a couple of seconds on both builds and raider ascendency helps getting more movement speed during the run.


I would say raider is much better than assasin for farming uber lab. I farmed it a lot in breach and with flasks up and phase run (which lasts about 18secs with 8 frenzies and duration nodes in passive tree) I could get like 350% ms + phasing, which helps to not get stuck on mobs. On most days I could complete lab under 4-5mins.
Only problem was getting stuck on some annoying traps and getting flask charges, but flask nodes/belt and poachers mark on CoH can help with that
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IReyn wrote:
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leglerm wrote:
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Aziah wrote:


Can the raider perform with the king of the forest build to close to the same potential or is that 100% asendancy node too good?

Feel so lost right now in my raider doing the signal shot build the king of the forest I ran many of times and I love it but I wanted something a bit different but feels weak compared to KotF


Sorry for the late response. Raider is definetly not that much weaker. As said you might notice a bit dmg loss at the top tier bosses but i did beat them all in breach without issues. It struggles the same as Assassin with no instant leech etc (OP posted a variation with belly, vaal pact etc which might be better for boss killing overall)

If you aim for more mapping raider would be my go to choice. And for Ulab there is no difference, Izaro is such an easy boss that he dies in a couple of seconds on both builds and raider ascendency helps getting more movement speed during the run.


I would say raider is much better than assasin for farming uber lab. I farmed it a lot in breach and with flasks up and phase run (which lasts about 18secs with 8 frenzies and duration nodes in passive tree) I could get like 350% ms + phasing, which helps to not get stuck on mobs. On most days I could complete lab under 4-5mins.
Only problem was getting stuck on some annoying traps and getting flask charges, but flask nodes/belt and poachers mark on CoH can help with that


True that though i went with onslaught raider instead. Just hit one pack of mobs in the lab and Movement speed goes through the roof. I did like 200+ ulab runs last league and hit top 100 most of the times. (though that doesnt say much). I also didnt used wither totem in ulab just decoy and the only thing to do is dodge 1-2 izaro attacks. For traps i did sometimes run with 2 instant life flasks when the layout was not as good (there is this one trap layout that sometimes gets me :/).
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sendantes wrote:
curious, ballistic mastery and aspect of eagle by start of ranger area are 4 passive points to get both, are they worth pursuing?


also i am curious, is
worth using especially if getting hit is more a rarity, since you get a huge hp boost from that.


still hoping to get a response on this question i had above,

also these are the best jewels i have for bow. are these decent enough for now?
Shitysushi - Arrow shooting build.
Sendeliriante - hollow palmer
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sendantes wrote:
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sendantes wrote:
curious, ballistic mastery and aspect of eagle by start of ranger area are 4 passive points to get both, are they worth pursuing?


also i am curious, is
worth using especially if getting hit is more a rarity, since you get a huge hp boost from that.


still hoping to get a response on this question i had above,

also these are the best jewels i have for bow. are these decent enough for now?


I took Balistic mastery and Aspect of the eagle. They give a good Dmg Boost about 4-5% per point. you can leave it of the damage is good without it. its what you prefer.

I dont know about Starkonja's the Life is nice but we really need the movement speed from Devoto's. I Have no Problem Surviving one Hit Starkonja's wouldnt let me survive a second one.

The Jewels Are OK. You should really Try to get %inc Proj or %inc Dmg on them + %max life. The third one is pretty up to you and what you can get your hands on. Just look on the first post. there is a point for Jewels and how good the Stats are.

I used this search filter too find good ones:
http://poe.trade/search/oninohakatutau
Last edited by MistrPow#3438 on Apr 7, 2017, 5:02:19 AM
So guys if I shop for QotF and Death's Opus what top rolls should I aim for?

QotF = Evasion?
Death' Opus = Top phys damage roll or top 50% crit chance? which of these two options would go a long way? I can't find any top rolled Opus for those two rolls right now. Thank you for the feedback! (I'm asking because I plan to buy a 6 linked QotF and Opus that's why I don't want to waste currency and I dont like divining cause my rng sucks! :D)
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firetoyourface wrote:
So guys if I shop for QotF and Death's Opus what top rolls should I aim for?

QotF = Evasion?
Death' Opus = Top phys damage roll or top 50% crit chance? which of these two options would go a long way? I can't find any top rolled Opus for those two rolls right now. Thank you for the feedback! (I'm asking because I plan to buy a 6 linked QotF and Opus that's why I don't want to waste currency and I dont like divining cause my rng sucks! :D)


You definetly go for %inc phys damage. you can roll crits with blessed Orbs if the roll is bad.
So upgrading from a 6l opus what would be next rare high dps bow or legacy reach?

Legacy reach is so crazy expensive at least rare is more bearable in price.
Can anyone explain the first two bandit choices to me? Seems like you'd want to go point,physical damage instead of oak(hp),point. Is there something I'm missing?

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