[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

And what about TS. It has a 100% Pierce Chance. if i would use this in a 6L for single target and clearing i would ...

a) nvm, doesnt work (Ts pierce chance)
b) had a 6 more sockets for defensive Setups/Gimmicks?!

Or does Barrage outdps TS on Bosses?

Last edited by NomadFX#0730 on Jan 12, 2017, 12:17:52 PM
Don't see any mention to hardcore viability or changes for HC play aside from the title saying SC/HC. Anyone playing this in HCB? Love the idea of a fast clearing jack of all trades build and love the detailed guide so I figured I'd give it a shot.
Are +% Chaos Damage and +% Projectile Damage the only two jewel stats that double dip? Does +% Damage?
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Or does Barrage outdps TS on Bosses?


I would say barrage does some more dps with the helmet enhance but it is also extremly expensive. I play TS with a 6L and my clearepeed/single target is very high and i can do pretty much every content in the game pretty easily. Its also (for me) more fun to play with TS since u cover the whole screen with piercing arrows.
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xFL0W wrote:
I dont get it why some say that LA is so much better in clearspeed than tornado shot. Tornado shot is even as strong in single target as barrage is and its better for kiting because u can shot faster with ts. I use devotos with 2+ second. TS projectiles and with dying sun it covers the whole screen with piercing arrows which gives you much faster clearspeed in maps and but especially in breaches because u csn just shot somewhere and still hit everything offscreen. It still depense on the own play style but saying that tornado shot is much worse isn't true at all
I've played a TS character in Perandus up to level 93 and it definitely cleared slower than this char. I have also got to the point on this character where I just reroll Ele Reflect maps because I am so fucking lazy to run TS - it's noticeably, absolutely slower (objectively) and feels worse to use (subjectively).

Not to be rude, but you must have been doing something with LA to get this impression. I'm not saying that TS isn't viable - of course it is (but I would build it as a single-skill character, with Kaom's Heart for a chestpiece, as you're going to use TS for both single target and clear) - but I don't understand why you keep posting about it in this thread. This entire build is optimized around LA and Barrage, and replacing LA with TS in this formula does make it worse.
Last edited by M4RED#0833 on Jan 12, 2017, 7:29:11 PM
hi guys need some help here
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/y562565/characters
name : mutishot gnosis
i try to do mintour earlier but fail hard i can clear all t15 but mntour just one shot me , what should i improve on next ?
and is the forbbbiten flask better then normal instant life flask .
thanks in advance
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NomadFX wrote:
why does everybody say most damage is coming from the chaos gem?

Wiki:

The base damage per second dealt by a given application of poison equals 8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit which applied that particular instance of poison.

So physical damage is as good as chaos damage or not? do i miss something here?
Keep in mind that most mobs in the game have no Chaos Resist. They do, however, have Armour.
Hey want to give this build a whirl but a few questions, hopefully saving me wasting time on chroming mostly.

1. Would this harbinger be better than the non-leg Reach I have, which i like to use on my TS farmer

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2. Has anoyone tested this with Lightning Coil? I've seen a few posts in the thread about it that its viable, but wondering if anyone has actually had a go. LC seems to be a huge survivability boost with my TS character which can farm up to T16, but as soon as I try the QoF, I run into issues (maybe bc my char tree is not specced for very high evasion?). I guess the issue could be that I probably have to run PoL which affects other auras I can use?

3. Similarly to 2., what about Rat's Nest. Again helps my TS ranger survivability over the Devotos (bc can get bosses down quicker), but maybe thats bc my TS damage is not that great without it compared to this build without rat's nest.

4. This might be a really dumb question, but if you need to use Frenzy to get charges, how do you set up your three skills with mouse. Ie Frenzy, LA (or other) AOE skill and Barrage. I've always used my LMB for movement.

Thx
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y562565 wrote:
hi guys need some help here
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/y562565/characters
name : mutishot gnosis
i try to do mintour earlier but fail hard i can clear all t15 but mntour just one shot me , what should i improve on next ?
and is the forbbbiten flask better then normal instant life flask .
thanks in advance


Minotaur is easy fight but maybe long fight for you (since your gear and gem haven't matured like lv20or21) I don't really get hit by minotaur at all (except lag and careless) just frenzy arrow and barrage at distant.

Positioning is important, you need to position so that you can see Mino and target him, at the edge of your screen. This is to maximise distance so that his earth-shatering hit doesn't hit you (which fall rock over time)

Another reason for this positioning is to notice when he burrow underground, when you see/hear he burrows, immediate change position to a clear spot. Then target your previous position, which minotaur will burrow out of the ground. Keep doing this and clear those golem when they exceed 2 around you, or when you out of charges.

Personally I prefer usual life flask and surgeon flask due to sustain,unique flask is really bad in long fight. Anyway, the gap of T15 and T16 boss is quite huge
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kariyudan wrote:
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y562565 wrote:
hi guys need some help here
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/y562565/characters
name : mutishot gnosis
i try to do mintour earlier but fail hard i can clear all t15 but mntour just one shot me , what should i improve on next ?
and is the forbbbiten flask better then normal instant life flask .
thanks in advance


Minotaur is easy fight but maybe long fight for you (since your gear and gem haven't matured like lv20or21) I don't really get hit by minotaur at all (except lag and careless) just frenzy arrow and barrage at distant.

Positioning is important, you need to position so that you can see Mino and target him, at the edge of your screen. This is to maximise distance so that his earth-shatering hit doesn't hit you (which fall rock over time)

Another reason for this positioning is to notice when he burrow underground, when you see/hear he burrows, immediate change position to a clear spot. Then target your previous position, which minotaur will burrow out of the ground. Keep doing this and clear those golem when they exceed 2 around you, or when you out of charges.

Personally I prefer usual life flask and surgeon flask due to sustain,unique flask is really bad in long fight. Anyway, the gap of T15 and T16 boss is quite huge

thanks for the quick reply, can you suggest the next step for me to do , i am kinda lost , i knowi should get a +1 drill neck and +2 hemlt and vunl groves , but they are too expensive for me(not sure dying sun is the right choice over those ), so now i am completely broke , so is there any cheap but good things i should upgrade first (below 1 ex )?

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