[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

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ggsbv wrote:
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NomadFX wrote:
why does everybody say most damage is coming from the chaos gem?

Wiki:

The base damage per second dealt by a given application of poison equals 8% of the combined physical and chaos damage dealt by the hit which applied that particular instance of poison.

So physical damage is as good as chaos damage or not? do i miss something here?


I have been wondering the same thing. Good question.

If you guys still not convinced, below are some numerical proof:

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Base damage: (average/ lv20) [max roll / lv21]
Reach of the Council - (189) [216]
Added chaos gem - (213) [237]
Flat chaos craft - (15) [20]

Gem link multiplier:
Pierce - 19% proj
Slow proj - 29% proj
Void main - 39% chaos

As you can see chaos base damage easily outnumber physical base damage, and our gem makes that chaos damage get 39% more multiplier compare to phy damage.

Another thing is we gain 20% of phy as chaos damage from assassin passive. My calculation is 80% of our dmg is from chaos damage for INITIAL HIT. Chaos damage is about 50% on early stage of the build.
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y562565 wrote:

thanks for the quick reply, can you suggest the next step for me to do , i am kinda lost , i knowi should get a +1 drill neck and +2 hemlt and vunl groves , but they are too expensive for me(not sure dying sun is the right choice over those ), so now i am completely broke , so is there any cheap but good things i should upgrade first (below 1 ex )?


There are few upgrade considerable good and value-packed. Your rare need considered upgrades.
Criteria for rings and amulet:
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High life - more than 65 is fine
Some int - get a total of 20/40 is good enough (depends if you change tree)
Some accuracy - accumulative of 300 is good, preferable just a single ring have 300+ (320 is better)
Resist - fill others with resist as much as possible, it helps alot.
Chaos flat dmg - buy crafted or buy those with open prefix to craft yourself. (Must)
Global crit multiplier - good on your amulet, but not necessary.


Criteria for belt:
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high life - more than 90
Reduce flask charge used - more than 15%
Resist - as much as possible, minimum 60%


Each piece of these gear can get for 10c or less if you find smartly and wait patiently. Except for chaos craft with cost 13c each piece.

After that, you could invest into TC glove if you don't consider to get vulnerability glove in short while (since you got so many other thing to upgrade first)
Last edited by kariyudan#4976 on Jan 12, 2017, 10:09:29 PM
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VodMythic wrote:

Please don't divine this legacy reach.
my bad, never play bow before breach and somehow forgot about the legacy. Keep it for other build I guess
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kariyudan wrote:
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y562565 wrote:

thanks for the quick reply, can you suggest the next step for me to do , i am kinda lost , i knowi should get a +1 drill neck and +2 hemlt and vunl groves , but they are too expensive for me(not sure dying sun is the right choice over those ), so now i am completely broke , so is there any cheap but good things i should upgrade first (below 1 ex )?


There are few upgrade considerable good and value-packed. Your rare need considered upgrades.
Criteria for rings and amulet:
Spoiler

High life - more than 65 is fine
Some int - get a total of 20/40 is good enough (depends if you change tree)
Some accuracy - accumulative of 300 is good, preferable just a single ring have 300+ (320 is better)
Resist - fill others with resist as much as possible, it helps alot.
Chaos flat dmg - buy crafted or buy those with open prefix to craft yourself. (Must)
Global crit multiplier - good on your amulet, but not necessary.


Criteria for belt:
Spoiler
high life - more than 90
Reduce flask charge used - more than 15%
Resist - as much as possible, minimum 60%


Each piece of these gear can get for 10c or less if you find smartly and wait patiently. Except for chaos craft with cost 13c each piece.

After that, you could invest into TC glove if you don't consider to get vulnerability glove in short while (since you got so many other thing to upgrade first)

thanks alot i shall start looking for them
The only difference with thia build and the TS Build from amigo is that king of the forest has much more defense and thats why i love this build. It has all the same damage nodes which a TS Build has. Maybe LA is faster but def not in every situation. Both skills are with the fastest clearspeed builds and TS was always a top tier skill for clearspeed and single target. I dont say that everyone should only play TS because the build is about LA and this is completely fine because LA is a very good skill for clearspeed but def not for single target which is my problem. PS : i Love TS in breaches because the arrows cover the whole screen.
It's me again and again looking for some advices. I've spent some real currency on this build since last time I've posted here but I'm still struggling with my personal most desired achivement (it's my first big league so it's really new to me) which is killing shaper.

I think I have most or everything set exactly as it is stated in this build but somehow I can't manage to kill him. Hell, not even get past 2nd stage. My damage just doesn't seem even close to the one presented in this guide's video. I'm pretty sure I remember about my charges everytime I barrage but it just doesn't feel enough. Fight will either last forever and if maybe somehow I won't do stupid shit 6 times in a row, I could kill him but it still isn't really right.

Check out my gear and tell me whether is it that's fault or my gameplay's.

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PlainLazy wrote:
It's me again and again looking for some advices. I've spent some real currency on this build since last time I've posted here but I'm still struggling with my personal most desired achivement (it's my first big league so it's really new to me) which is killing shaper.

I think I have most or everything set exactly as it is stated in this build but somehow I can't manage to kill him. Hell, not even get past 2nd stage. My damage just doesn't seem even close to the one presented in this guide's video. I'm pretty sure I remember about my charges everytime I barrage but it just doesn't feel enough. Fight will either last forever and if maybe somehow I won't do stupid shit 6 times in a row, I could kill him but it still isn't really right.

Check out my gear and tell me whether is it that's fault or my gameplay's.

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Hm your gear is awesome, Looks like a Problem on your side ;)
Do you use a wither totem for Shaper?
Last edited by NomadFX#0730 on Jan 13, 2017, 5:40:17 AM
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PlainLazy wrote:
It's me again and again looking for some advices. I've spent some real currency on this build since last time I've posted here but I'm still struggling with my personal most desired achivement (it's my first big league so it's really new to me) which is killing shaper.

I think I have most or everything set exactly as it is stated in this build but somehow I can't manage to kill him. Hell, not even get past 2nd stage. My damage just doesn't seem even close to the one presented in this guide's video. I'm pretty sure I remember about my charges everytime I barrage but it just doesn't feel enough. Fight will either last forever and if maybe somehow I won't do stupid shit 6 times in a row, I could kill him but it still isn't really right.

Check out my gear and tell me whether is it that's fault or my gameplay's.

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Your gear are pretty good, but there are few things for note. You don't have all gems with 20Q, use those best in barrage link instead of LA. Use wither totem, immortal call won't save you in shaper fight.

Having quality on Inc crit is helpful, I have 21/20 to cap crit. Same goes to blood rage. Added chaos 21/20 helps alot as well.
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PlainLazy wrote:
It's me again and again looking for some advices. I've spent some real currency on this build since last time I've posted here but I'm still struggling with my personal most desired achivement (it's my first big league so it's really new to me) which is killing shaper.

I think I have most or everything set exactly as it is stated in this build but somehow I can't manage to kill him. Hell, not even get past 2nd stage. My damage just doesn't seem even close to the one presented in this guide's video. I'm pretty sure I remember about my charges everytime I barrage but it just doesn't feel enough. Fight will either last forever and if maybe somehow I won't do stupid shit 6 times in a row, I could kill him but it still isn't really right.

Check out my gear and tell me whether is it that's fault or my gameplay's.

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I have the same exact feeling ... I tried running shaper with aurabot and we never got passed phase 2. I was like wtf ? My gear isn't no where near as good as yours though. Everything else dies just fine.
Really fun build, great damage and survivability. I was wondering if someone could take a look at my gear and suggest improvements. I know it's far from perfect, I still need to get better flasks and levels for jewel sockets(lvl83 at the moment).
I finally made enough currency for a Reach, should I buy one and 5L it or try to 6L my opus and/or queen of the forest? My rings and amulets are not the best, but my resistances are capped for now.One last thing, which gems should I improve the quality first? already got a few 20% that I got from uberlab.
Gear:



Ps: Tried using ElemRes with golem and totem, but didn't see much difference, I'll try linking minion life with golem, it dies way too often.
Last edited by Tiozao#6582 on Jan 13, 2017, 5:45:37 PM

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