And there it is...remaking of content with Lab elements.

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diablofdb wrote:

I don't understand people, they complain because boss fight in map and generic and boring.


GGG add some mechanics and fancy exciting original thingy for boss fight and people think it's a bad thing?


idk if I'm alone here having that opinion but, when I saw the fight with the lava monster and the flame wave thing with lever and everything else... I was very exciting and I want more of this.

Yep, people sing praise on grim dawn and that game has these kinds of boss fights, its something which Path of Exile has been lacking for a long time. I welcome the change entirely and i look forward to more bosses with more difficult mechanics and seeing even the older bosses reworked to be more difficult.

Bosses right now, fall more in the hack n slash category, with the new boss mechanics theyll finally feel like an ARPG.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

lol'd

Anything that can hit you and possibly do something to you = Labyrinth shit now.

@Morbo - Lmao game finally gets more difficult and now you see the Labyrinth haters freaking the fuck out because content is actually getting challenging and requires some thought to defeat.

I must be missing the part where you use thought to figure out which button to pull, it seems rather obvious and in the end people will be one shotting this boss with bladefall traps anyways, or vortex or CoC discharge or whatever other stupid meta thing GGG made no effort to balance relative to most of the gems in the game after yet another year filled with more missed opportunities to balance the game.

People who trivialize the game are going to trivialize it regardless. A person who isnt playing meta isnt going to be oneshotting these bosses nor are they going to have an easy time when the mods are rolled well.

Cast on Crit is getting nerfed, Bladefall, while strong, has shit clear in comparison. The only reason Bladefall is even good right now is because double dipping which is arguably a broken mechanic that needs to be fixed just like snap shotting but thats an argument for another thread entirely.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

People who trivialize the game are going to trivialize it regardless. A person who isnt playing meta isnt going to be oneshotting these bosses nor are they going to have an easy time when the mods are rolled well.

Cast on Crit is getting nerfed, Bladefall, while strong, has shit clear in comparison. The only reason Bladefall is even good right now is because double dipping which is arguably a broken mechanic that needs to be fixed just like snap shotting but thats an argument for another thread entirely.

And those people who are NOT trivializing the game will all be gone from their lab-induced rage anyways.

Really, the old meta of bladefall, flameblast, bladevortex, regular vortex, coc discharge, bow-anything isn't changing this update at all. They might modify one or two small things here or there but I fully expect the game to pretty much be exactly the same in 2.4 as it has been since release - one semi-nerfed pseudo-"melee" skill, 3 caster skills, 2 bow skills meta.

There will be a handful of players who still believes GGG gives a flying fuck about viper strike (or insert random non-EQ non-reave melee skill) desperately trying to make viper strike builds on their occultist witches.

Oh and they're adding channeling skills I think? That will be the new OPFOTM meta, because it's a new caster gem. Count on it. FUCKING COUNT ON IT.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

People who trivialize the game are going to trivialize it regardless. A person who isnt playing meta isnt going to be oneshotting these bosses nor are they going to have an easy time when the mods are rolled well.

Cast on Crit is getting nerfed, Bladefall, while strong, has shit clear in comparison. The only reason Bladefall is even good right now is because double dipping which is arguably a broken mechanic that needs to be fixed just like snap shotting but thats an argument for another thread entirely.

And those people who are NOT trivializing the game will all be gone from their lab-induced rage anyways.

Really, the old meta of bladefall, flameblast, bladevortex, regular vortex, coc discharge, bow-anything isn't changing this update at all. They might modify one or two small things here or there but I fully expect the game to pretty much be exactly the same in 2.4 as it has been since release - one semi-nerfed pseudo-"melee" skill, 3 caster skills, 2 bow skills meta.

Oh and they're adding channeling skills I think? That will be the new OPFOTM meta, because it's a new caster gem. Count on it.

You sound pretty ridiculous right now, even going as far as saying unreleased channeled skills which we dont even have a clue to what they are are going to be the new GG gem.

People said the same thing about Essence Drain and plenty of other new gems, guess what, they arent used all that much. I mean youre even using Vortex as a "meta" example and Vortex isnt even very good, especially not in comparison to essence drain.

Lmao, actually the silent majority of players are happily enjoying the game, its quite comical that you think a small amount of players complaining makes up the majority of "non-meta" players.

You need to take a serious chill pill.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

You sound pretty ridiculous right now, even going as far as saying unreleased channeled skills which we dont even have a clue to what they are are going to be the new GG gem.

People said the same thing about Essence Drain and plenty of other new gems, guess what, they arent used all that much. I mean youre even using Vortex as a "meta" example and Vortex isnt even very good, especially not in comparison to essence drain.

Lmao, actually the silent majority of players are happily enjoying the game, its quite comical that you think a small amount of players complaining makes up the majority of "non-meta" players.

You need to take a serious chill pill.

The irony of this post, of course, is seeing someone plow through most of POE using vortex while glacial hammer builds LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I can't finish that sentence sorry I started laughing out loud halfway through

Glacial hammer - so good it freezes your own character in a pack of mobs... because you're furiously swinging your hammer and you still aren't killing any of them

I think they named glacial hammer based on its speed, it moves as fast as a glacier, get it? This game is so much funnier when you stop and appreciate the subtle comical things GGG has added

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Legatus1982 wrote:

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

You sound pretty ridiculous right now, even going as far as saying unreleased channeled skills which we dont even have a clue to what they are are going to be the new GG gem.

People said the same thing about Essence Drain and plenty of other new gems, guess what, they arent used all that much. I mean youre even using Vortex as a "meta" example and Vortex isnt even very good, especially not in comparison to essence drain.

Lmao, actually the silent majority of players are happily enjoying the game, its quite comical that you think a small amount of players complaining makes up the majority of "non-meta" players.

You need to take a serious chill pill.

The irony of this post, of course, is seeing someone plow through most of POE using vortex while glacial hammer builds LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

I can't finish that sentence sorry I started laughing out loud halfway through

Glacial hammer - so good it freezes your own character in a pack of mobs... because you're furiously swinging your hammer and you still aren't killing any of them

What does Glacial Hammer have to do with ANYTHING i just said or anything you said prior for that matter rofl ?

Take a chill pill, seriously.

If your argument is "melee doesnt compare to range" thats an entirely different topic and youre continuing to derail the thread.

I think OP is overreacting.

Pulling levers to open doors or turn off things doesn't make it the "horrible lab" you claim it to be. When you start getting large areas full of complex trap placements that will shred you if you take the wrong step, your complaints would be justified.

I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with what GGG has implemented with the revamped maps.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

What does Glacial Hammer have to do with ANYTHING i just said or anything you said prior for that matter rofl ?

Take a chill pill, seriously.

If your argument is "melee doesnt compare to range" thats an entirely different topic and youre continuing to derail the thread.

The OP's underlying premise is that GGG clearly doesn't give a shit about its players liking their game at all, and I supported that claim with a few examples. Derailed, sure, but off topic? No.

You suggested that vortex isn't even that good, I gave an example of something that makes vortex look like a lawnmower.

You call it derailing a thread, I call it killing two birds with one stone. In the end it doesn't matter, GGG clearly isn't going to read this thread anyways, and if they did, nothing would come out of it. The days where they actually make progress (IE, fixing desync) are long gone.

As a "lab hater" I must say I like to see the traps in boss rooms, anywhere basically where I fight the monsters as they ADD to the difficulty of the fight without making the fight all about traps. My favourite fight in lab must be Izaro's final form, very well done and I am happy GGG introducing the traps to some of the boss encounters, extra challenge is welcome.
That being said, as soon as I saw lava I cried together with my 10 fps I will probably get there:( This is my only issue.

As for the "white knights", guys give him a break. It is perfectly fine for someone to leave the game if he does not enjoy the new content or the direction the game is taking. GGG decided to carry on with lab elements in core game and that is the tipping point for him. He does seems like overreacting but hey, it is his decision.

Good luck in future games man whatever you are going for.