Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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Xavathos wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Let them rant. The rest of us already know exactly which threads to ignore until we want some salt on our fries we eat while cruising through uber lab.

/shrug

Now there's a mature reasonable attitude. I hope that your suggestion sinks in but I'd say not to count on it. :-)

Do I sense a sliver of sarcasm in your comment? If you're so incredibly mature, you wouldn't have replied or even acknowledged my post.

As I've said before in one of your other hundreds posts about this same topic, sigh, you're not wrong to complain. You're not even being rude in your attitude, but you are being shellfish in the way that you're so determined to taylor the game to your needs while the majority of us enjoy it very much right now.

Let your voice be heard, absolutely, but as with everything in life, moderation is appreciated. You can go too far you know.

Why do you think after all this you have 0 replies from GGG? Just quit the game and let us enjoy it? Because many of us do.

No sarcasm at all in the first sentence. The second sentence I would not consider sarcasm but it could be reasonably argued that there may be a sliver in that part indicated by the smilie face.

I'm not being selfish at all? That is a very strange thing to say. This is the Feedback and Suggestions forum and I'm giving feedback and suggestions. How is that selfish? I'm of course doing it in part out of self interest but I'm convinced that the vast majority of the player base would not mind it in the least if the ascendancy points were moved out from behind the labyrinth and made a reward for new challenges being added in 3.0, for example. It is also obvious that a significant percentage of ARPG players are alienated by the trap game play in the labyrinth. So, it would be a very smart move for GGG to make.

GGG has replied to other threads and emails. Not sure what your point is? I basically have quit the game. I hope to return in 3.0 though, assuming that GGG fixes the problem there.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

"680" posters...have you went and verified it's 680 individual people and not the same handful regurgitating the same QQ in other threads.

Even then, minority vs majority, even assuming that only part of the minority have said anything you are still going to be under 10% of players (being generous with the guess)

Yes I have, in the OP it says,

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I started looking at some other data. An "o" after the name means the account is older than March 2016. A "$" after the name means that a supporter title is in the profile. An "*" after the name means that neither of those is the case. This was done in response to paranoid people that said I or someone else was creating alt accounts just to up the numbers on the list. This irrational argument has been soundly laid to rest because there are fewer than 4% of the accounts with an *.

Note that early March 2016 was the labyrinth release date.

It seems you're trying to compare the list of 689 accounts against the whole player base. That is a totally meaningless comparison. The nature of the forum is that it is a small subset of the player base. The 689 in the list proves that it is not just 5, 10, or 20 people posting which is what Sidtherat, Goetzjam and company used to claim. I would say that 689 people posting is a significant number voicing their opinion on any issue here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum.

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IllusorySuperiority wrote:

please add me to the list of people that love lab and think it's easy

There's only the list of people that thinks the labyrinth is easy but needs to be fixed because it is boring, tedious, and/or frustrating to play. You can start up your own list if you'd like?

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Turtledove wrote:

Note that early March 2016 was the labyrinth release date.

It seems you're trying to compare the list of 689 accounts against the whole player base. That is a totally meaningless comparison. The nature of the forum is that it is a small subset of the player base. The 689 in the list proves that it is not just 5, 10, or 20 people posting which is what Sidtherat, Goetzjam and company used to claim. I would say that 689 people posting is a significant number voicing their opinion on any issue here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum.

And it still doesn't matter, GGG made it clear months ago that they aren't going to change the lab with a few people complaining about it, especially ones like yourself that have already voiced their concerns.

Why do you think its necessary to daily bump a thread, at what point are you just going to give your piece and move on, unless you see something you need to respond to, why do you feel its necessary to keep your thread on the front page?

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goetzjam wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Note that early March 2016 was the labyrinth release date.

It seems you're trying to compare the list of 689 accounts against the whole player base. That is a totally meaningless comparison. The nature of the forum is that it is a small subset of the player base. The 689 in the list proves that it is not just 5, 10, or 20 people posting which is what Sidtherat, Goetzjam and company used to claim. I would say that 689 people posting is a significant number voicing their opinion on any issue here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum.

And it still doesn't matter, GGG made it clear months ago that they aren't going to change the lab with a few people complaining about it, especially ones like yourself that have already voiced their concerns.

Why do you think its necessary to daily bump a thread, at what point are you just going to give your piece and move on, unless you see something you need to respond to, why do you feel its necessary to keep your thread on the front page?

Exactly, if it was the first it wouldn't be that bad, but it's not. Thousands of posts all combined and no answer from GGG. Maybe they don't want to change Lab when they already have to reinvent the wheel for 3.0?

Entitled people... but hey, just call us white knights and hate on us because we "defend GGG". In the meantime you can buy your enchants from me. :)

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Xavathos wrote:

Entitled people... but hey, just call us white knights and hate on us because we "defend GGG". In the meantime you can buy your enchants from me. :)

Exactly.

It's awesome for Labyrinth fans that so many Labyrinth haters exist.

Many (and probably most) fans of the Labyrinth are not blind fanbois ("white knights," if you prefer). But there is a difference between resisting change because the status quo is genuinely good and resisting change because of economic self interest.

I am now of the opinion that RMT is the reason for many of POE's issues.
By allowing the issues to persist, the RMT market flourishes to a select fews favor.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Entitled people... but hey, just call us white knights and hate on us because we "defend GGG". In the meantime you can buy your enchants from me. :)

Exactly.

It's awesome for Labyrinth fans that so many Labyrinth haters exist.

Many (and probably most) fans of the Labyrinth are not blind fanbois ("white knights," if you prefer). But there is a difference between resisting change because the status quo is genuinely good and resisting change because of economic self interest.

True. In my case it's genuine though. I was only saying you don't have to run lab, you can get enchants in other ways. I don't think I've made more than 3 ex total from enchant sales this league. So hardly a reason to want it to stay.

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lagwin1980 wrote:

"680" posters...have you went and verified it's 680 individual people and not the same handful regurgitating the same QQ in other threads.

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Turtledove wrote:

Yes I have. -snip- This was done in response to paranoid people that said I or someone else was creating alt accounts just to up the numbers on the list. This irrational argument has been soundly laid to rest because there are fewer than 4% of the accounts with an *.

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Turtledove wrote:

I've added your name to the list. I know you are using an alt account.

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FixLabPLSGGG wrote:

my army of bump alts.

Yeah...

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krunchor wrote:

I am now of the opinion that RMT is the reason for many of POE's issues.
By allowing the issues to persist, the RMT market flourishes to a select fews favor.

It is pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Docbp87 wrote:

It is pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pretty clear you are team no life, your opinion has no value in this discussion.

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krunchor wrote:

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Docbp87 wrote:

It is pretty clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pretty clear you are team no life, your opinion has no value in this discussion.

What does having no life have to do with anything what he just said dude?