Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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mark1030 wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Obliviongamer91 wrote:

I'm not going to bother to read through all of these threads and posts, so I don't know if anyone else has made this suggestion:
Lots of people complain about having to do all of this crap in one sitting, and any one misstep, be it a horrible trap gauntlet accident or one of those one shot crits which totally only exist if you have a shitty build ("Why don't you play meta? It's current year, after all!") will send you back to the entrance, rendering any time and energy investment completely void and making the lab a waste of time.

The fix is ridiculously simple: Just put a checkpoint AFTER every boss. If you die, the instance gets reset and you spawn at that checkpoint. You'll still have to do the trap gauntlet and kill the next boss from 100%, but you don't get that kick in your balls if you slip up during the Izaro fight.

It would make the lab much less frustrating to run, and I might even consider not letting my guild mates with meta builds pull me through it.

I think this is another first post on the labyrinth controversy! Welcome. Your suggestion is a good one that has been suggested probably hundreds of times. It would help reduce frustration significantly, especially for people that don't enjoy trap game play.

Problem is that not everybody has the same issue with the labyrinth. This suggestion is a good example. For some it would satisfy them. For you it would not. So lumping everybody together like you're trying to do with this thread is not fair. There is no agreed upon "problem" with the lab, so counting the number of different topics or posters is making a meaningless statement.

Hi Mark, I disagree. The suggestion would reduce the frustration for me included. It does go to the same problem. The problem is that Ascendancy points are gated behind doing labyrinth. While it is true that this particular suggestion would not satisfy me and others completely, that is a secondary issue. Many of the potential solutions documented in the OP of "SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]" would satisfy me completely as well as most of the people that only have a problem with a lack of town portals and only do labyrinth for the ascendancy points, for example.

Also, as I've mentioned before my guess is that GGG will be divorcing labyrinth and ascendancy points completely and gating the ascendancy points behind new content. This would also satisfy me as well as most everyone else. I suspect the main group that doesn't like that idea is players that are making a tidy in-game profit by carrying people through the labyrinth right now. Let's call them a vocal minority, just for jollies?

Never happening keep dreaming.

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Pepock wrote:

piss off man

act 5 is gonna be the tits

to get past the boss you have to go in first person and shoot 3 red targets on his head then you can continue to the next room

holy crap its gun be gud

I still think Rhoa Racing should be a higher priority addition to the game.

Bonus points for realizing who I am actually making fun of in that thread. (Hint: It's not GGG.)

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Jgizle wrote:

Never happening keep dreaming.

What are you doing here, man? Why are you posting in the forums instead of playing the game and making a "killing" escorting those "noobs" who don't enjoy the Labyrinth?

Im actually working atm. Cant play all day like those noob nolifers .

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Pepock wrote:

piss off man

act 5 is gonna be the tits

to get past the boss you have to go in first person and shoot 3 red targets on his head then you can continue to the next room

holy crap its gun be gud

I still think Rhoa Racing should be a higher priority addition to the game.

Bonus points for realizing who I am actually making fun of in that thread. (Hint: It's not GGG.)

The Roa racing thread was an extra good one!

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Turtledove wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

This is a great idea!
Normal could be a D strength opponent (1200-1399),
Cruel could be a C strength opponent (1400-1599),
Merciless could be a B strength opponent (1600-1799), and
Endgame could be an A strength opponent (1800-1999).

I could make a killing carrying players in the Endgame since I'm rated an expert (2170) by the U.S. Chess Federation. Heck, most people would have to buy a carry for even Normal. I could really make a big killing. If people complained then I could just say they need to "git gud" and this would really be true, unlike the current labyrinth!

Are you implying that the difference between labyrinth and a chess game for you is that the chess game would allow you to wave your e-penis in front of everyone ?

When I complain that labyrinth is not fun and I want to play PoE instead of Frogger to earn ascendancy points. People have responded many times that I need to "git gud". This is false since getting gud solves none of those problems and would not really help me earn the ascendancy points. Turning it around to my statement. If someone said that playing the new content is not fun and they want to play PoE instead of chess. I could respond that they need to "git gud". This would have at least some truth in it because they likely would not have enough chess skill to even pass the challenge.

So you could wave your e-penis against those people that told you "git-gud", fair enough.

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Obliviongamer91 wrote:

It would make the lab much less frustrating to run, and I might even consider not letting my guild mates with meta builds pull me through it.

It has nothing to do with meta build man, any build built well enough ( there can be tons of ) should be able to do Izaro.
Now, Vaal skills only builds are maybe not what GGG would like the vaal skill use to be ...

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Turtledove wrote:

This would also satisfy me as well as most everyone else. I suspect the main group that doesn't like that idea is players that are making a tidy in-game profit by carrying people through the labyrinth right now

Wrong guess, never carried anybod through lab.
And the other guess is completely wrong also, imho.

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Fruz wrote:

So you could wave your e-penis against those people that told you "git-gud", fair enough.

Being a jerk is a bit out of character for you Fruz? I hope that you feel better? edit: meaning I'll assume that you are just having a bad day.

yay, I am in the list.

The devs made a mistake and they don't want to go back and solve it, they only made it worst adding 1 more lab and probably will solve this when they need more people playing the game.

For the player: Why you are attacking a suggestions to make a game better like your live depend on that? You are all basically saying: "YOU SHOULD LIKE WHAT I LIKE, GET GUD"

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HeliaXDemoN wrote:

yay, I am in the list.

The devs made a mistake and they don't want to go back and solve it, they only made it worst adding 1 more lab and probably will solve this when they need more people playing the game.

For the player: Why you are attacking a suggestions to make a game better like your live depend on that? You are all basically saying: "YOU SHOULD LIKE WHAT I LIKE, GET GUD"

To be fair to GGG, the endgame lab was in development prior to the initial Ascendancy release.

On the forum, there's almost always a vocal minority that lobbies for keeping the status quo. As Michelle Obama said, "When they go low, we go high."

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Turtledove wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

So you could wave your e-penis against those people that told you "git-gud", fair enough.

Being a jerk is a bit out of character for you Fruz? I hope that you feel better? edit: meaning I'll assume that you are just having a bad day.

Nah, waving one's e-penis is just a stupid analogy to describe what you were doing, and to all people that just throw the "git-gud" hammer without thinking, would be kinda fair ( not one a really serious tone of course ).

I honestly assumed that you were kinda, and my following answer was basically on the same tone, I am not really trying to be a jerk there lol.


But honestly, there is a point in the fact that if the lab was piss easy ( and thus take almost no time, I personally usually spend like maybe 20~25 mins in the lab or so when I run it, but I know that if you rush it you can aim for less than 10 ) ... people would complain wayy less.
So the "git-gud" hammer here is usable to an extent.
Just throwing it completely without anything else is silly though.

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HeliaXDemoN wrote:

For the player: Why you are attacking a suggestions to make a game better like your live depend on that? You are all basically saying: "YOU SHOULD LIKE WHAT I LIKE, GET GUD"

You do not know if it would make the game better, there are many opinions about it, that is what is being discussed essentially.

But wait ...... Why do some people keep spamming a game forum relentlessly like their live depend on it ? They are basically saying "YOU SHOULD CHANGE THIS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT".

I can do that too, see ?