Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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AceNightfire wrote:

Oh really? Ok, lets go along with the definition thing. I tried to google what a "safe space" is. The best definition I found so far, that would kinda fit in our situation, is this one:

http://safespacenetwork.tumblr.com/Safespace

"A Safe Space is a place where anyone can relax and be able to fully express, without fear of being made to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe on account of biological sex, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, cultural background, religious affiliation, age, or physical or mental ability."

Sadly I didnt find a definition of safe space for games (I really wonder where you got your definition from). But what this definition tells is, that a safe space must guarentee the person to be able to relax and that the person doesnt have to fear any kind of threat. In our case, that would be traps. So if I stay in your so called "safe space" the sentry drone would run over me and kill me. I HAVE to move in that trap layout, or I die (unless Im a juggernaut). You are free to post definitions from other pages as well, good luck with that.

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Albinosaurus wrote:

You can try to oversimplify it and attach whatever fallacies you want, but the bottom line is that it's not okay to put something so important to character development behind something so divisive (and not .

But that's a separate complaint from hating the lab. If you hate the lab, it's not because the ascendency altar is at the end of it. You wouldn't suddenly like the lab if they moved the altar out of there.

I like how Siochan is suddenly pushing all the lab threads, this doesn't seems artificial at all and show how big the community of lab haters are.

Not sure a safe place has to be a permanent stationary safe place. Is a crosswalk a safe place to cross the street? Yes. But not permanently. Just when you have the green light.

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IceDeal wrote:

I like how Siochan is suddenly pushing all the lab threads, this doesn't seems artificial at all and show how big the community of lab haters are.

Maybe siochan is casual ascent, he just deleted his account after getting probated the other day and now suddenly siochan is posting like a mad man. Not to say theyre same people but i wouldnt be surprised if they were.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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IceDeal wrote:

I like how Siochan is suddenly pushing all the lab threads, this doesn't seems artificial at all and show how big the community of lab haters are.

Maybe siochan is casual ascent, he just deleted his account after getting probated the other day and now suddenly siochan is posting like a mad man. Not to say theyre same people but i wouldnt be surprised if they were.

Just gonna leave this here for further stats studies

http://imgur.com/afZokn7

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mark1030 wrote:

Not sure a safe place has to be a permanent stationary safe place. Is a crosswalk a safe place to cross the street? Yes. But not permanently. Just when you have the green light.

Exactly. This is why definitions of safety exclude any form of permanency, because youre never truly safe, youre presently safe.

Im safe in my house, that doesnt mean a meteor from space couldnt come crashing down and kill me, or a plane randomly falling from the sky, etc.

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mark1030 wrote:

But that's a separate complaint from hating the lab. If you hate the lab, it's not because the ascendency altar is at the end of it. You wouldn't suddenly like the lab if they moved the altar out of there.

It would be wrong imo to try and make the lab likable by everyone, it's ok that people don't like it. The part that's not ok is forcing people to run it.

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Turtledove wrote:

It is a different genre, I've said this a million times before, a few traps here and there do not make it trap gameplay. It is still arpg gameplay with some traps in it. When you have screens full of traps then the gameplay is trap gameplay not arpg gameplay. This is a different genre, more like mario or frogger.

Can you link the paragraph in the International Association of Video Games bylaws that defines aRPG and sets a limit on the number of traps allowed to qualify for the genre?

Your request is ridiculous and irrelevant. What is relevant is that trap gameplay is boring, irritating, tedious, and not fun to me. When you have screens full of traps in the labyrinth then that is trap gameplay. Does everyone feel this way? Apparently not, but, a significant number of people do.

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mark1030 wrote:

Not sure a safe place has to be a permanent stationary safe place. Is a crosswalk a safe place to cross the street? Yes. But not permanently. Just when you have the green light.

It's simple: A crosswalk is no safe space. Even your parents teach you: Before you cross a crosswalk, take a look to the right and to the left. There are enough accidents because people took the safety from crosswalks for granted and then a driver didn't pay attention and overran them. You could say the sidewalk is a safe space, since you can stand there without being threatened to get overran by any cars. If we take your example and use it on PoE, the sidewalks are the safe spaces (places, where cars/traps can't reach you), while the streets are the traps (because you can die on the street without paying attention). A crosswalk just minimizes the danger, but it will never nullify it.

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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:

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>SJW definitions

I see. So you ran out of arguments and now have to step so low and use funny animated memes to undermine other peoples arguments. You are free to search for the definition of "safe space" and you will notice, that most pages (even non-tumblr once) go in the same direction. At least I tried to go along with your unlogical definition and you can't even defend it.