Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!

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srogi_kotek wrote:

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I don't have any big problems with lab. Eventually, I can finish eternal lab with all my characters. During this league I finish eternal lab with 2 chars, both on lvl 75. Died 3 or 4 times on traps, was disconnected couple of times but finally did it. Problem is that I did it without any joy or fun. It was just very annoying, unwelcome and tiring... duty. I was forced to finish "lab" because I like endgame fights and my favoured build requires full ascendancy. And game shold be fun, and not forcing players to visit certain locations, which can be easily skipped. Would you enjoy, if at the end of lab was Eradicator instead of Izaro?

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ciel289 wrote:

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srogi_kotek wrote:

@up
I don't have any big problems with lab. Eventually, I can finish eternal lab with all my characters. During this league I finish eternal lab with 2 chars, both on lvl 75. Died 3 or 4 times on traps, was disconnected couple of times but finally did it. Problem is that I did it without any joy or fun. It was just very annoying, unwelcome and tiring... duty. I was forced to finish "lab" because I like endgame fights and my favoured build requires full ascendancy. And game shold be fun, and not forcing players to visit certain locations, which can be easily skipped. Would you enjoy, if at the end of lab was Eradicator instead of Izaro?

i dont have a problem with that boss either ofc if he has izaro buffs he could be a big problem but that boss wasnt designt to work with those kinds of buffs.
the dcs are y problem you should fix instead of complaining about it and with fix i mean go in the tech support part of the forum and ask ppl for help. its simply not normal to have so many dcs i.e. i i cant even remember when i had my last dc it was prior to the 10act thing.

i´m not saying you have to enjoy lab,but all games can have a part that you dont enojoy and as long as you only have to do them once (per charr in this case) its totaly fine.
there arent many layouts for trap areas if you take your time,prepare before you enter lab (checking poelab is a good idea if your build cant handle all of his mods, yes waiting 1-3 days isnt a bad thing if you dont enjoy lab and are bad at running it), pick the right movementskill for your build and never blindly spam movementskills if youarent used to traplayous.

wb,leapslam ans shieldcharge might be op for mapping but charged dash,lightning warp and blink arrow are king in lab.

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Turtledove wrote:

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ciel289 wrote:

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srogi_kotek wrote:

@up
I don't have any big problems with lab. Eventually, I can finish eternal lab with all my characters. During this league I finish eternal lab with 2 chars, both on lvl 75. Died 3 or 4 times on traps, was disconnected couple of times but finally did it. Problem is that I did it without any joy or fun. It was just very annoying, unwelcome and tiring... duty. I was forced to finish "lab" because I like endgame fights and my favoured build requires full ascendancy. And game shold be fun, and not forcing players to visit certain locations, which can be easily skipped. Would you enjoy, if at the end of lab was Eradicator instead of Izaro?

i dont have a problem with that boss either ofc if he has izaro buffs he could be a big problem but that boss wasnt designt to work with those kinds of buffs.
the dcs are y problem you should fix instead of complaining about it and with fix i mean go in the tech support part of the forum and ask ppl for help. its simply not normal to have so many dcs i.e. i i cant even remember when i had my last dc it was prior to the 10act thing.

i´m not saying you have to enjoy lab,but all games can have a part that you dont enojoy and as long as you only have to do them once (per charr in this case) its totaly fine.
there arent many layouts for trap areas if you take your time,prepare before you enter lab (checking poelab is a good idea if your build cant handle all of his mods, yes waiting 1-3 days isnt a bad thing if you dont enjoy lab and are bad at running it), pick the right movementskill for your build and never blindly spam movementskills if youarent used to traplayous.

wb,leapslam ans shieldcharge might be op for mapping but charged dash,lightning warp and blink arrow are king in lab.

DC's are extra crappy in labyrinth. This is because all progress is lost, also costing an Offering when it happens in endgame labyrinth. Your assertion that DC's were srogi_kotek's fault is not necessarily true. I have to assume that you should know this but just choose to ignore it?

Regarding your assertion that evasion builds work fine in labyrinth, my assertion and srogi_kotek's assertion was that labyrinth is trivial with many builds. Whereas other builds it is much more difficult. I thought this was a universally understood truth. Apparently you either don't agree or just choose to ignore it?

Labyrinth is horrible crappy content. When it was originally released, it was advertised and hyped as a different kind of beast. The assertion that all games have less fun content ignores the fact that labyrinth is separate and different. Bestiary was not added to the core game in part for this reason, according to GGG. I didn't play Bestiary but, I will guess that it is less different from the core game than labyrinth?

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ciel289 wrote:

atop putting words into other ppl posts that arent there.
i said DCs are bad and ofc they suck in lab,but ppl complain that they constantly dc in lab is their fault. its not their fault that they happen,but its their fault they arent fixing it. they dont have to fix them theirself but there is a Forumpart for tech issues where you can get help.
complaining without providing the appropriate information isnt possible
get over it.

no eva builds have no problem with lab traps,i´m mostly running builds that have their defences mainly based on curses or acrobatics,somtimes both.(gues what curses dont effect traps)
if you dont blindly rush into traps there is no problem i even use the curse blight charr to farm uberlab with a build that has neinter meaningfull armor nor eva.

lab is the only totally predictable content in endgame if you checked izaro mods,but we are talking about traps here.
you can hate it if you want,but stop with that nonsense of many builds (especially eva once) haveing a problem with traps.
there is only 1 way to die to traps and that is if you fail,its not the build ity simply your skill that is lacking

yes i had to write it in such a unfriendly way,because you constantly fail to understand these simply facs out of your blind hatred for lab that is bases on not enjoying a certain playstyle

i will say it once more "you dont have to like or enjoy lab, you can even hate it if you want, you only have to run it once every charr and it is very doable with any build if you prepare right"

the lab is very hard for new players that is the only that is true,but there are so many other things in this game that are equally horrible for new players. i.B. some bossfights,where its hard to tell what is even going on when you havent seen it before or some nasty combinations of mapmods

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Turtledove wrote:

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ciel289 wrote:

atop putting words into other ppl posts that arent there.
i said DCs are bad and ofc they suck in lab,but ppl complain that they constantly dc in lab is their fault. its not their fault that they happen,but its their fault they arent fixing it. they dont have to fix them theirself but there is a Forumpart for tech issues where you can get help.
complaining without providing the appropriate information isnt possible
get over it.

no eva builds have no problem with lab traps,i´m mostly running builds that have their defences mainly based on curses or acrobatics,somtimes both.(gues what curses dont effect traps)
if you dont blindly rush into traps there is no problem i even use the curse blight charr to farm uberlab with a build that has neinter meaningfull armor nor eva.

lab is the only totally predictable content in endgame if you checked izaro mods,but we are talking about traps here.
you can hate it if you want,but stop with that nonsense of many builds (especially eva once) haveing a problem with traps.
there is only 1 way to die to traps and that is if you fail,its not the build ity simply your skill that is lacking

yes i had to write it in such a unfriendly way,because you constantly fail to understand these simply facs out of your blind hatred for lab that is bases on not enjoying a certain playstyle

i will say it once more "you dont have to like or enjoy lab, you can even hate it if you want, you only have to run it once every charr and it is very doable with any build if you prepare right"

the lab is very hard for new players that is the only that is true,but there are so many other things in this game that are equally horrible for new players. i.B. some bossfights,where its hard to tell what is even going on when you havent seen it before or some nasty combinations of mapmods

You're still putting words in my mouth! I didn't say labyrinth was hard to complete with evasion builds. It was said by multiple people that labyrinth is significantly harder for evasion builds compared to trivial builds like high life regen builds. Labyrinth is a different kind of game play. Learning this different kind of game play is boring because it is crap content. However, once that different kind of game play is learned it is not hard. So you can get off your silly high horse. Since you don't believe that labyrinth treats evasion builds much more harshly than high life regen builds then I have to conclude that you're not really the expert that you think you are.

Stop with the nonsense that Labyrinth is the same game play just because boss fights are hard for new players. GGG has even stated that labyrinth is a different kind of game play from the rest of the game. So, go argue with GGG about that, not me.

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egarding your assertion that evasion builds work fine in labyrinth, my assertion and srogi_kotek's assertion was that labyrinth is trivial with many builds. Whereas other builds it is much more difficult. I thought this was a universally understood truth. Apparently you either don't agree or just choose to ignore it?

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Labyrinth is horrible crappy content. When it was originally released, it was advertised and hyped as a different kind of beast. The assertion that all games have less fun content ignores the fact that labyrinth is separate and different. Bestiary was not added to the core game in part for this reason, according to GGG. I didn't play Bestiary but, I will guess that it is less different from the core game than labyrinth?

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You're still putting words in my mouth! I didn't say labyrinth was hard to complete with evasion builds. It was said by multiple people that labyrinth is significantly harder for evasion builds compared to trivial builds like high life regen builds. Labyrinth is a different kind of game play. Learning this different kind of game play is boring because it is crap content. However, once that different kind of game play is learned it is not hard. So you can get off your silly high horse. Since you don't believe that labyrinth treats evasion builds much more harshly than high life regen builds then I have to conclude that you're not really the expert that you think you are

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LiberAlley wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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ampdecay wrote:

I still hate doing lab fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

While the first two labyrinths have been significantly improved, the last two labs and the endgame trials are still just as boring, tedious, irritating, and unfun.

Ampdecay, I've added a "&" to your name in the account name list meaning that it's now officially recorded that you "still hate doing lab" even after GGG cut way back on the loathsome lab content required in release 3.0.

The first two labyrinths have not been improved, they have been nerfed and ruined and they re now a complete joke.
I hope uber lab at least will stay interesting and rewarding and FUN as it is.

Make the lab great again.

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ciel289 wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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ciel289 wrote:

atop putting words into other ppl posts that arent there.
i said DCs are bad and ofc they suck in lab,but ppl complain that they constantly dc in lab is their fault. its not their fault that they happen,but its their fault they arent fixing it. they dont have to fix them theirself but there is a Forumpart for tech issues where you can get help.
complaining without providing the appropriate information isnt possible
get over it.

no eva builds have no problem with lab traps,i´m mostly running builds that have their defences mainly based on curses or acrobatics,somtimes both.(gues what curses dont effect traps)
if you dont blindly rush into traps there is no problem i even use the curse blight charr to farm uberlab with a build that has neinter meaningfull armor nor eva.

lab is the only totally predictable content in endgame if you checked izaro mods,but we are talking about traps here.
you can hate it if you want,but stop with that nonsense of many builds (especially eva once) haveing a problem with traps.
there is only 1 way to die to traps and that is if you fail,its not the build ity simply your skill that is lacking

yes i had to write it in such a unfriendly way,because you constantly fail to understand these simply facs out of your blind hatred for lab that is bases on not enjoying a certain playstyle

i will say it once more "you dont have to like or enjoy lab, you can even hate it if you want, you only have to run it once every charr and it is very doable with any build if you prepare right"

the lab is very hard for new players that is the only that is true,but there are so many other things in this game that are equally horrible for new players. i.B. some bossfights,where its hard to tell what is even going on when you havent seen it before or some nasty combinations of mapmods

You're still putting words in my mouth! I didn't say labyrinth was hard to complete with evasion builds. It was said by multiple people that labyrinth is significantly harder for evasion builds compared to trivial builds like high life regen builds. Labyrinth is a different kind of game play. Learning this different kind of game play is boring because it is crap content. However, once that different kind of game play is learned it is not hard. So you can get off your silly high horse. Since you don't believe that labyrinth treats evasion builds much more harshly than high life regen builds then I have to conclude that you're not really the expert that you think you are.

Stop with the nonsense that Labyrinth is the same game play just because boss fights are hard for new players. GGG has even stated that labyrinth is a different kind of game play from the rest of the game. So, go argue with GGG about that, not me.

i gues you dont even read what you are wrting yourself?

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egarding your assertion that evasion builds work fine in labyrinth, my assertion and srogi_kotek's assertion was that labyrinth is trivial with many builds. Whereas other builds it is much more difficult. I thought this was a universally understood truth. Apparently you either don't agree or just choose to ignore it?

you are bringen up eva builds and complain tha they arent fine in lab. you are contradicting yourself.
at no point i ever said that there arent builds designed to run lab,that completely trivialize traps and izaro. its a normal thing that builds are good at the thing they were designed for,its not like lab builds have no weaknesses.

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Labyrinth is horrible crappy content. When it was originally released, it was advertised and hyped as a different kind of beast. The assertion that all games have less fun content ignores the fact that labyrinth is separate and different. Bestiary was not added to the core game in part for this reason, according to GGG. I didn't play Bestiary but, I will guess that it is less different from the core game than labyrinth?

i stated in both my posts that lab is differrent than the normal game,but its neither too hard nor impossible for every build that has the right gear (caped resi,big enough ehp pool and thats a reqirement for every "lategame" option) and prepares for lab.

you dont have to like lab was written in all my posts, the time you spent in lab is so short compared to the total game that it is meaningless.
you dont have to like every part or aspect of a game.

lab and uberlab is doable witout any problems on any build in 1 try even though you might not enjoy lab.
if you have to do it more than once,its your fault for either playing bad or if you constantly get dcs not fixing the problem wit the help that is offered herein the forum.

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You're still putting words in my mouth! I didn't say labyrinth was hard to complete with evasion builds. It was said by multiple people that labyrinth is significantly harder for evasion builds compared to trivial builds like high life regen builds. Labyrinth is a different kind of game play. Learning this different kind of game play is boring because it is crap content. However, once that different kind of game play is learned it is not hard. So you can get off your silly high horse. Since you don't believe that labyrinth treats evasion builds much more harshly than high life regen builds then I have to conclude that you're not really the expert that you think you are

this is the typical nonsense you are wrting all the time,while putting words into other ppl posts.
youa re mixing up "not liking" with "its to hard for some builds".
yes you are complaining again how "unfair" lab is for some builds (especially eva ones),there was absolutly no point in bringing eva builds up again and now you are saying "it is not hard, but its different and boring"
you can have that opinion,i dont care about that at all.

its totaly normal that that builds that arent build for content x have a harder time than builds that are build for content x
noone will ever deny that, however that is true for all parts of the game. there are builds for lab,magic find,supporting with auras,bosskilling and just beening fast in general.
lab is easy with any build if you know what you are doing and all of these builds can do it (yes even aurrabots can solo it,its just not that much fun,but thats not the point here)
they simply have to adjust heir flasks/pnatheonto do so.

if you would stop your false argument "lab is so unfair to some builds since they can run it as easy as builds designed or more suited to do it", your complain wouldnt be as invalid as it is in its current f