[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Creds wrote:

You have huge lag of INT - an good Ice Storm Witch Easy hit 2k - 2,2k Int
and had much more dmg then 10k - i personal hit 44k Ice Storm Dmg, the ather thing is
to use Rare Items is an waste of potential since you can easy go full Unique items and have an full bonus from your rings wich add you 3% Int for each Unique item. ES lag with Uniques ? not really you can easy hit over 10k. Res lag ? Nope i easy run 7 Auras and im on each map max res - you have much more potential :)

Can you give us some info on about how you`ve reached 2,2k with the witch ? and where would your tree go if you equip I assume Skyforth for that cause. Also wich gloves do you use ?

Not difficult to find, this guy who speak like a moron is talking about this build :
2.1 LL Whispering Ice! Up to 10,5k ES, 2.2k Int and nearly 17k Avg.Dmg! NEW THREAD UP!
[2.2] (Berserker/Hierophant) Low Life Whispering Ice! Up to 10k+ ES and 27k Avg.Dmg. peak!

This build probably cost around 25ex (shavronne's wrappings atziri's acuity), the best he can do with that is normal atziri slow run and 17 frigging minutes for vinktar square, this build is the total opposite of face tanking even for atziri's trio he have to kite like hell. Such an amazing build enjoy your 44k tooltip and leave us with our int "lag" (but your probably mean "lack").

What do you guys think about this build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697785/page/1 vs this one
edit: found the answer on page 89

I respeced a char into this yesterday and I've been trying it out. Still lvl 80+ but seems the build is good. Icestorm is a "static" skill but with silver, quicksilver and chalice the clear speed is quite good.
Orb of storms is the best choice but I rarely use it. I always end up replacing it with something on all builds. Here I'm trying out assassin's mark instead of enfeeble. If I take out CD it works great. With it is still works but it's inconsistent (combined with the fact that you need to be hit for the curse to be applied).
Have you tested assassin's mark ? Any idea what other gem I could use instead of CD ? Maybe added cold damage or even iron will (since strength is decent with the astramentis).

I've been puttering away on this char all league, but I sunk a good bit of currency into it after liquidating my Brochief guy.

It's very effective, and I've made my peace with Leap Slam (you're right about the quality, it's really does make a noticeable difference). Just curious where I should go from here. The only obvious upgrade is more int on chest (and the price of one with comparable stats but 14 more int is genuinely absurd) and a better Black Sun, which I'll get around to when I scrap together another 120 Chromes.



Sitting at 1450 Int, 8k ES.

Actually using IncAOE to clear even guardian maps and switching to Conc just for bosses.

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Chest 5L: CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20)

Having trouble effecting this, do the link need to be in that exact order...and from the top: L-R ,R-L, L-R

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reliq wrote:

note: regarding the increase AOE, I found this video posted today on reddit. This applies to icestorm and not increasing the AOE will increase your single target dps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6IipGTmwzE

That's been known from the start. The smaller the radius of the AoE skill of this type the more single target DPS it does. The original WI Scion didn't take any AoE nodes at all to maximize the DPS. But then he was taking forever to kill things like the Trio and Uber Atziri because they move. And every time the target moves out of your stacked Icestroms - all that DPS goes to waste. Not to mention taking much longer to clear trash (or having to use AoE just for that).

I was following the original WI Scion build at first, but then came to a conclusion that the AoE nodes are worth taking. IMO the current version has the right balance between DPS and clear speed. Also, most bosses are very large and get hit by most icicles even with inc radius.

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gruumine wrote:

Awesome build man, Kindly add your essence league gear too also add after X months of playing.

My gear for the Essence league is posted in the Templar version, since that's the class I'm playing in this league. My Witch'es gear in Standard is still the same as before 2.4. I'd love to get an Int Crystal belt for her, but there is almost no import from EHL currently and I don't think I want to spend that much effort myself (level a farm char in EHL and send essences to Standard). I'll just make some good belts in ESL and they will end up in Standard in 2 months.

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vpetrovgb wrote:

Can you give us some info on about how you`ve reached 2,2k with the witch ? and where would your tree go if you equip I assume Skyforth for that cause. Also wich gloves do you use ?

All-unique versions typically use 2x legacy Perandus Signets, Astra, Shav, Skyforth or Sin Trek, Black Sun, Perandus Blazon and Voidbringers, Acuity or even Doedre gloves (sacrificing pretty much everything for that tooltip).

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

I respeced a char into this yesterday and I've been trying it out. Still lvl 80+ but seems the build is good. Icestorm is a "static" skill but with silver, quicksilver and chalice the clear speed is quite good.
Orb of storms is the best choice but I rarely use it. I always end up replacing it with something on all builds. Here I'm trying out assassin's mark instead of enfeeble. If I take out CD it works great. With it is still works but it's inconsistent (combined with the fact that you need to be hit for the curse to be applied).
Have you tested assassin's mark ? Any idea what other gem I could use instead of CD ? Maybe added cold damage or even iron will (since strength is decent with the astramentis).

This build has way too much power for trash clearing and non-endgame bosses, so you can destroy the build by not using half of its abilities and not even notice it. Until you get to the serious stuff and start struggling because you replaced the really important things with some fluff (like Assassin's Mark :).

Just re-read the Build Theory carefully. You probably TL;DR'd thru it at first.

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Galadedrid wrote:

I've been puttering away on this char all league, but I sunk a good bit of currency into it after liquidating my Brochief guy.

It's very effective, and I've made my peace with Leap Slam (you're right about the quality, it's really does make a noticeable difference). Just curious where I should go from here. The only obvious upgrade is more int on chest (and the price of one with comparable stats but 14 more int is genuinely absurd) and a better Black Sun, which I'll get around to when I scrap together another 120 Chromes.

Spoiler

Sitting at 1450 Int, 8k ES.

Actually using IncAOE to clear even guardian maps and switching to Conc just for bosses.

Do you actually need the fire res on the chest? You can craft +14 All Stats on it instead. Rolling the belts is easy, you can probably do better than that. Dump some chroms on the boots. If you roll RRGG on them you can swap AA and Orb to take full advantage of your 6L chest.

And try IR instead of AoE for trash. You can mostly sustain T16 by clearing with IR if you roll the maps to 90 IIQ, pack size and use Zana (Torment or Beyond). You spend 10c and you almost always find more than 10c worth of stuff in it (not even counting T16 map drops that you keep for yourself).

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Dunkleosteus wrote:

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Chest 5L: CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20)

Having trouble effecting this, do the link need to be in that exact order...and from the top: L-R ,R-L, L-R

The order doesn't matter here. Re-check your gem levels. This only works when CWDT and BL are low level and the curses are high level.

Assassin's mark is fluff ? Hmm... ok, I guess we like very different playstyles. I always experiment and change the builds I make. Everyone likes different things.

Got my gear to a really nice point in essence now.
I dropped pyre for another opal ring & removed all my izzaro's turmoil jewels. Replaced them with +int, +damage ones. At this point it seems that 10 int is > 10% damage. Also dropped all +area nodes from the tree. If I need more area for clearing I swap in that gem but I've found that yellow mobs sometimes don't die in 1 cast with increased aoe.

Stats in HO with both golems active:
1,716 int
10,224 es
9,992 damage with elemental overload up

Now to upgrade the gloves and boots... =(