[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Endactam wrote:

For mana reservation I took the 4% reduced mana reserved node right beside CI. It gets me from 2 icestorm casts to 3 /w only a lvl 3 enlighten & a 132 mana icestorm. On 0 regen maps it's only 2 casts. Currently with 1,504 int I have 326 unreserved mana.

As for moving out of the yellow circles in the minotaur fight he likes to dive underground even while in melee range of me. I think he's going after my golems, not sure. He didn't do that in your video & has not done it in about 60% of my fights with him. Other times he does it every 10 seconds or so.

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

That gear is good. What do your jewels look like & are you following Kelvynn's tree? Do you have lvl 20 q20 gems? I killed shaper with about the same stuff as you're wearing now after a few tries.

Dunno why for me items shows with gems... yeah I have all 20/20 and following exactly guide. Still around 8 points to go as wanna finish at 91 lvl.

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

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Your items are good.

But where is AA? Unless you plan on going directly after the Shaper and skipping T16, you really want AA. Instead of that Clarity there. This build does not need Clarity in any situation at all.

I assume that AoE is just there for easy trash clearing? You will want CE instead of AoE for the serious bosses.

And get the 0.6% leech enchant on the boots. There are only 15 boot enchants, it's not hard to get what you want even with bad luck. Uber Lab runs are always profitable and never wasted anyway.

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CheefKaigen wrote:

to have 264 unreserved mana (2 icestorm casts with a 6s whispering ice),you need ~1480 int to reach 1760 mana, which is needed with a lvl4 enlighten (3+1 from black sun).

2 casts is what you need. I have 282 free mana on the Inquisitor in the videos above facerolling T16 and the Shaper. The +1 level is the other major reason to use Black Sun (other than +15% Int). With a rare helmet you need Enlighten lv 4 to be comfortable, in addition to the price tag on those helmets. BSC is better and cheaper than a good rare even in this league (really though, fuck the flippers! they piss me off).

Oh yeah, and your Discipline gains a level too for more ES. Discipline is pretty easy to level to 20 (or just buy 20/0). With some luck (vaal) you can be running around with lv 22 Discipline (like all my chars do).

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Kelvynn wrote:

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siema87 wrote:

Thank you that's what I wanted to know :) Could you tell me if I should improve something in my gear to try end game bosses?

Spoiler

Your items are good.

But where is AA? Unless you plan on going directly after the Shaper and skipping T16, you really want AA. Instead of that Clarity there. This build does not need Clarity in any situation at all.

I assume that AoE is just there for easy trash clearing? You will want CE instead of AoE for the serious bosses.

And get the 0.6% leech enchant on the boots. There are only 15 boot enchants, it's not hard to get what you want even with bad luck. Uber Lab runs are always profitable and never wasted anyway.

Yeah Clarity is just for easy maps as I'm leveling atm on 8-10 tiers. Just wanted to ask about gear ;) waiting now for easier uber lab layout to farm for that enchant. Thanks for tips ;)

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Endactam wrote:

As for moving out of the yellow circles in the minotaur fight he likes to dive underground even while in melee range of me. I think he's going after my golems, not sure. He didn't do that in your video & has not done it in about 60% of my fights with him. Other times he does it every 10 seconds or so.

I see. Try unplugging the Lightning golem. It's probably the culprit here. It likes to run away and attack from range, and all golems taunt the enemy. It may cause you trouble at the Shaper too, provoking him to use Teleport Slam.

I didn't notice any issues like that in Standard on my Witch. But her gear is pretty insane there, she can survive Teleport Slam. I'll do some tests with her in Standard and if the Lightning golems is indeed causing this then I'll recommend taking it out for those 2 fights.

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Endactam wrote:

As for moving out of the yellow circles in the minotaur fight he likes to dive underground even while in melee range of me. I think he's going after my golems, not sure. He didn't do that in your video & has not done it in about 60% of my fights with him. Other times he does it every 10 seconds or so.

I see. Try unplugging the Lightning golem. It's probably the culprit here. It likes to run away and attack from range, and all golems taunt the enemy. It may cause you trouble at the Shaper too, provoking him to use Teleport Slam.

I didn't notice any issues like that in Standard on my Witch. But her gear is pretty insane there, she can survive Teleport Slam. I'll do some tests with her in Standard and if the Lightning golems is indeed causing this then I'll recommend taking it out for those 2 fights.

This makes sense. I have a free blue and green socket with not using the lightning golem... maybe an ice golem would work. 40% damage and some more accuracy and a bit of crit won't hurt.
Actually... that drops 18% attack & cast speed... that may hinder more than dodging the slam.

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Endactam wrote:

This makes sense. I have a free blue and green socket with not using the lightning golem... maybe an ice golem would work. 40% damage and some more accuracy and a bit of crit won't hurt.
Actually... that drops 18% attack & cast speed... that may hinder more than dodging the slam.

Ice golem is a ranged attacker too, he'll behave the same way as Lightning.

Try using Chaos golem instead of Lightning for Mino. It behaves like the Flame one: goes where you cast Icestorm and is not afraid to tank. 4% reduced phys dmg is good there too.

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Kelvynn wrote:

Btw, on Minotaur, you can get 1-shot if you are not facetanking him. His most powerful attack (his version of Teleport Slam that's animated as an 'underground roll') is only used against ranged attackers. I never have to deal with it because I facetank him. He sometimes does it at the very start when I'm running towards him, but then it's easy to dodge by simply running to his initial spot.

So THAT's why he totally destroyed us when playing duo... No way to tell there's a telegraph either when everything is ice, one of the worst parts about this build.

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CheefKaigen wrote:

to have 264 unreserved mana (2 icestorm casts with a 6s whispering ice),you need ~1480 int to reach 1760 mana, which is needed with a lvl4 enlighten (3+1 from black sun).

I have 300+ (2.7 times ice-storm) mana by spending 1 passive point in 4% reduce mana reserve skill and using 3 lvl corrupted enlighten gem +1 from head gear.

1 passive point I used on 4% reduce mana reserve I will get it back when my char reach lvl 90. :)

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Kelvynn wrote:

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gibtuck wrote:

So are we dropping Auxium now?

In the Essence league it's an easy decision: a 50+ Int crystal belt looks definitely better than Auxium.

The problem with 'dropping' Auxium is that this is not possible outside of this one league. Without the essence crafted mod a crystal belt is not better than Auxium. It can help you with resists until your other gear is good enough, but Auxium is still valuable against chill/freeze.

I'm going to recommend the Int Crystal belt over Auxium but make a note about the availability. Essence crafting is getting very mixed feedback and there is absolutely no guarantee that GGG will add it to the core game in the future. It may end up like the Talismans: obscenely expensive items not really different from the discontinued legacy stuff.

Pro tip: before this league is over, make a lot of Int crystal belts. It's cheap. But you might just make a fortune later.

For those who want them in Standard right now: Essence Hardcore League.

Well, after about 5 Deafenings and 10-12 Shriekings, it looks like you were right :) Wish there was a 2nd Resist instead of friggin Life Regen, but once I roll 5% MS on it I'll be pretty happy.

Hi,

Firstly thank you for such an in-depth guide.
I was just wondering what were you thoughts on Occultist with this build?