[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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cremefresh55 wrote:

Hello, I did this build and it is awesome!
Got some questions though:

1) Why do I keep Ball Lightning at lvl 4 in:
CWDT (lv 1) - Ball Lightning (lv 4) - Curse of Hit (20/20) - Enfeeble (lv 20) - Temporal Chains (lv 20)?

2) I don't think my Enfeeble works properly:
When I get hit, Ball Lighentings are getting cast correctly but no Enfeeble as far as I can tell. But sometimes random Enfeeble cast just appear out of nowhere and it keeps on casting forever until I move. That's pretty weird. How should that work exactly?

3) CWDT - Immortal Call - Summon Flame Golem - Summon Ice/Chaos Golem:
It doesn't seem to work on me. I did let get myself hit, but no Golems will Spawn.
I don't understand how this works? And why not keep this CWDT at lvl 1? I mean the Golems will Spawn even harder with higher CWDT, don't they?

Can someone explain this to me in Detail?

1) CWDT lvl 1 requires a low amount of damage to work. However, it can also only support low lvl skills. Since Ball Lightning damage isn't important at all, we leave it at lvl 4 (max lvl of the skill before it can't be used with CWDT).

2) You might not have either Whispers of Doom or Doedre's Damning to allow the three curses. Make your characters public so we can confirm that.

3) CWDT has to be higher lvl because higher lvl golems actually make a difference. A low lvl CWDT can't spawn lvl 20 golems. If you check the CWDT skil gem, you will notice it has something like "max lvl supported" or something like that that tells you up to which lvl requirement it can support. Let's say its 40, if your golems require lvl 60 they wont work. So we lvl CWDT to the max lvl, and we dont lvl golems beyond the current lvl of CWDT.

@Levirael

You are absolutely right, it all does make sense now :D

Thank you!

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ninjaxus wrote:

I'm using empower3+discipline in my helm (have RRRG gloves :D). Any suggestion what else to put in there that would benefit empower?

Empower? Does that mean you are not using Arctic Armour? Empower would increase the mana reservation from Discipline and Blasphemy to the point where you can't run another aura. That's a bad idea IMO. Slightly higher ES and slightly larger WM aura radius is not worth losing a major defensive aura.

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marsupielago wrote:

Isn't it worth picking Oak in Merciless for an extra endurance charge? Since we're always up on full charges with warlords mark.

No. An endurance charge is much less useful than a skill point, especially at high levels. You can always get at least +10 base Int with that, and that point might just give you the next jewel socket. Endurance charges are not as important as Int. We spend them to get a non-trivial duration on Immortal Call, but 3 or 4 doesn't really matter.

Last socket can be Vaal Discipline for when you need regen with nothing to leech from.

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codari1 wrote:

Now i have a blue empoty socket. Not linked though. Can you recommend a gem ?

Also i badly need resists so can't use doedre for now. Can you also recommend a gem for the linked chest instead of vulnerability/temporal

I found no good use for the 6th unlinked socket in the chest myself. Vaal Discipline is useless after the nerf. Vaal Lightning Trap is OK for the bosses that are not immune to shock. That's about it until you can 6L it and add Enhance for the curses.

If you are using a dual curse setup (no Doedre's) then you have 2 unused sockets for whatever gems you want. At that point you can do something like this:
- link the chest 4L + 2L: CWDT - Ball - CoH - Enfeeble, and VS - FA
- 3L boots/gloves: Lightning Warp - Faster Casting - Less Duration, and unlinked Orb of Storms.
That's if you really want to use LW for places like Lab.

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SmokerHell wrote:

I have some problem with Hall of Grandmasters, i cant kill scoli and mull gubben. Icestorm deal so low dmg ... All other exiles no problem - only this two :(

I don't know who is Scoli (some new mull_gubben wannabee added in 2.6?) but there is a very simple way of dealing with max block GM's such as mull_gubben described in the Boss Guide, and you can see me frying mull_gubben in the video as well. I've cleared HoGM in the Legacy league without any issues, but I don't remember meeting anybody named Scoli there, he probably wasn't up. Each GM has about 50% chance to spawn in each particular instance.

What about Vaal Breach, so you can generate about half a minute of infinite leech and flask charges whereever you want?

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Cleista wrote:

What about Vaal Breach, so you can generate about half a minute of infinite leech and flask charges whereever you want?

Good idea! I haven't tried that. Can you open a breach in the Shaper's arena? That would be just hilarious, considering the amount of leech you could get from it. )))

Is there a way to get this gem in standart?

Question... WHat is my next step? I'm trying to get a 21 Discipline. Am I shaper ready? Can I tank him or do I need to get more ES? (I have 10K es). I could craft INT on the body armour but I wouldn't be capped in fire.

Second question: is the benefit from having 6L on the staff good enough to do it? I mean, the ray would have more damage and I would leech through it, right?

Third question: Is my tree fine? Should I buy Emperor's Wit instead of a Izaro's Turmoil?

Playing this.

This staff is surprisingly strong.