[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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puncayshun wrote:
Hi, I finally got my resists to use Black Sun Crest and with a level 2 enlighten. I have my gem set up in the helmet exactly like yours, so I threw on arctic armor, and I can only cast one Icestorm with my mana pool. I realize the point is to mana leech, but running a map is awful with completely being reliant on mana leech, not only for damage but for survivability. Having only one shot instead of two really limits you for when mobs move around or for when you misplace an Icestorm.

Also, why do you go all the way down to Unwavering Stance for stun immunity when you can just use Valyrium instead? I realize you use Doedre's ring for tri curse, but I was under the impression that temp chains wasn't very useful vs. bosses unless you were max curse effectiveness. By going Valyrium I can save so many points to get things like Foresight, Nullification, Unnatural Calm, and the ES nodes around the witch start which make all the difference in EHC.

It is true that I lose about 100 intelligence due to the Brute Force jewels, but I can pick up Catalyse, Elementalist, and Celestial Judgement for double dipping elemental damage for way more damage compared to the ~13% increased spell damage that 100 intelligence would give me. AND I'm getting all this way earlier.

This is my first WI character and I certainly don't know everything about it so I was hoping you could clear up some of my misunderstandings.

Looks like you are playing it wrong and probably TL;DR'd thru the build explanations and Q&A ;)

Are you range killing or something? Relying on leech for everything is exactly what this build is about. There is nothing wrong with having mana for 1 cast of Icestorm with lv 2 Enlighten. See the Templar Uber Lab run video for example: that's lv 2 Enlighten there, with 1 cast mana pool. So what? As long as you hit anything your mana is immediately restored. Even if you misplace your cast, you still have some mana regen. You get used to the play style and stop spamming Icestorm on empty spaces or the packs that are already dead or dying.

Once you get the boot enchantment, you won't even need to be near the mobs you are hitting. And once your Enlighten is lv 3 it gets less restrictive. You can also use Item Rarity instead of CE for most everything but the top bosses. It costs no extra mana and you will have enough mana for 2 casts before needing to leech.

As for Unwavering Stance and its alternatives, please read the Q&A.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Oct 21, 2016, 1:55:06 PM
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Rusherboy wrote:
Hi

Thanks alot for this build, it's really nice and the guide is the best I have ever seen. Thank you for the effort.

I'm lvl 88 now (semi-casual this league) and have been hanging around in the Tier 12-15 area. Now my plan is to get ready for Shaper and Guardians. Do you have any recommendations on next upgrades?

Thanks!

Spoiler

Get your gems leveled and add quality (see the Gems section) before going after T16/Shaper. You want Enlighten lv 3 and 20/20 DPS gems at least, and 20q Blasphemy and CoH.

You are not using Enfeeble? That's a bad idea.

I see you got lucky with the colors on the gloves. With that roll you can just go with the Ice golem: CWDT - IC - Flame Golem - Ice Golem. It's a good option, just too expensive to recommend in a new league. Re-color the chest to get the green 6th socket for AA, put Enfeeble into the curse link. Boots: Leap - Fortify - FA - Orb.

Do some Uber Lab and get the leech enchantment for the boots.

Your gear is fine. What to upgrade? I'd start looking for a better chest armor.
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Kelvynn wrote:
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Rusherboy wrote:
Hi

Thanks alot for this build, it's really nice and the guide is the best I have ever seen. Thank you for the effort.

I'm lvl 88 now (semi-casual this league) and have been hanging around in the Tier 12-15 area. Now my plan is to get ready for Shaper and Guardians. Do you have any recommendations on next upgrades?

Thanks!

Spoiler

Get your gems leveled and add quality (see the Gems section) before going after T16/Shaper. You want Enlighten lv 3 and 20/20 DPS gems at least, and 20q Blasphemy and CoH.

You are not using Enfeeble? That's a bad idea.

I see you got lucky with the colors on the gloves. With that roll you can just go with the Ice golem: CWDT - IC - Flame Golem - Ice Golem. It's a good option, just too expensive to recommend in a new league. Re-color the chest to get the green 6th socket for AA, put Enfeeble into the curse link. Boots: Leap - Fortify - FA - Orb.

Do some Uber Lab and get the leech enchantment for the boots.

Your gear is fine. What to upgrade? I'd start looking for a better chest armor.


I forgot to post my boss killer staff and also forgot to put Enfeeble back in after some testing on another character. I am using 3 curses like you and the only difference in our trees is that I take Thief's Craft wich is 40 Int and 10 Dex for 3 points.



I guess I just have to practice now.

Thanks!

3.3 RF Trickster SSF HC guide :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2147256
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Rusherboy wrote:
I take Thief's Craft wich is 40 Int and 10 Dex for 3 points.

That option is never really worth it. It's almost the same as 3 plain 10 Int nodes. There is always something better. For example, Catalyse is 20 Int for just 1 node.

You are not using Diamond Skin. Are your resists really that good? I don't see how you are maxing your resists. You aren't swapping Doedre's for that rare resist ring, are you? That would be pretty bad for high end content.

Another thing I didn't notice at first: the cobalt jewel you are using is pretty weak. See the Gear-Jewels section for a method how to evaluate them.
I'm also looking forward to an update for the flask section. Is it a must to run a Sulphur on Elementalist? I do see a small difference in damage but not a crucial amount like it would on an Inquisitor

Currently using these:



Starting to do higher Tier maps, swapped the Topaz for this Sulphur:


Free Master Crafting Service (Breach): thread/1797112
Free Master Crafting Service (Essence): thread/1744527
Free Master Crafting Service (Legacy): thread/1857272
Free Master Crafting Service (Harbinger): thread/1952418
Last edited by Garnier#6570 on Oct 22, 2016, 2:44:46 AM
tested and it working quite well able to do map that i cant do usually
fast leech althrough my chest color wasnt right
i using CWDT lv 4, increased duration, Temporal chain , enfeeble, curse on hit
Enjoy Legacy!!!!
nice build

sad the amulett cost tons of chaos



keep up the good work :)
Nice build, the only bad part is that you need like 100 exalts to get your gear for end game.
Kelvynn.

Build is quite nice even with my 10-13 ex total cost gear.

I have a question.

I killed all bandits on normal and didn't took diamond skin cluster for resistances. (so totally i have 4 extra passives). Now with my gear my resistances are 147/143/124. What is your advice on this issue? Which clusters should i get? Maybe Faith of Steel + Nullification or Lightning Walker to cap my resistances? Or maybe additional jewel socket with +13-15 lightning resistance?

Which of these options would be better?

For the moment my ES: 8100.

Would be also nice if you can take a look on my gear and tell me what should i do next to improve generally my items, ES or deeps. Character name: Autism_On_Hit

Thank you ! :)
Last edited by gopotan#6453 on Oct 23, 2016, 6:58:55 AM
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gopotan wrote:
Kelvynn.

Build is quite nice even with my 10-13 ex total cost gear.

I have a question.

I killed all bandits on normal and didn't took diamond skin cluster for resistances. (so totally i have 4 extra passives). Now with my gear my resistances are 147/143/124. What is your advice on this issue? Which clusters should i get? Maybe Faith of Steel + Nullification or Lightning Walker to cap my resistances? Or maybe additional jewel socket with +13-15 lightning resistance?

Which of these options would be better?

For the moment my ES: 8100.

Would be also nice if you can take a look on my gear and tell me what should i do next to improve generally my items, ES or deeps. Character name: Autism_On_Hit

Thank you ! :)


Why would you not take diamond skin and then use those points to pick up less useful nodes like nullification?

Either get gear good enough to cap your res as you are now or spec the diamond skin nodes

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