SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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gibbousmoon wrote:

Spoiler

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EnjoyTheJourney wrote:

Here is a big part of lab threads, re-written for delve.

OP in feedback forum making a post: I think we should change delve to make sulphite collection less boring and tedious.

Response: But, they haven't fixed issue 6,493 yet, and I care about that more, so you shouldn't be posting about delve.

OP: Maybe you should make your own thread.

Response: You just need to "git gud" to in your sulphite collection efforts.

OP: What part of "boring and tedious" is unclear to you? Also, collecting sulphite means clicking on something. It's not difficult.

Response: Sulphite collection is a minor percentage of game time, so stop being a whiner.

OP: Is it really your place to decide when people are behaving appropriately in the feedback forum? Is that not up to GGG, instead of you?

Response: I don't like section "Z" of the game and I don't post negative feedback, so you shouldn't do that about delve.

OP: What you choose to do or not do is up to you. But, who are you to try to force your beliefs on others?

A little bit mean, perhaps, but mostly accurate.

"Lab is too hard"

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"Lab is boring"

are two very different pieces of feedback. And both are legitimate pieces of feedback from GGG's perspective, even if they disagree with one or both statements.

But the solutions to each piece of criticism are (naturally) quite different. So accusing all critics of disingenuously wrapping up criticism #1 into a criticism #2 shell (there are 2-3 posters who thrive on doing exactly that--you know who you are) only drives this thread into off-topic ad hominem drivel, and distracts from useful discussion about how to address issue #2.

And that's really a shame, since GGG obviously put a shitload of work into addressing issue #2. They are not finished, I grant, but let's give them credit where credit is due: The Lab is a LOT more fun to explore now than it was upon release.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

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The Lab is a LOT more fun to explore now than it was upon release.

Oh, I get it now - the lab is smaller than it was before so people who hate it spend less time getting it over with therefore the lab is more fun to them.

Flawless

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Regulator wrote:

My friends notified me that private leagues were gonna be a thing, i instantly checked with great anticipation to see the announcement only to be really disappointed that there is no option to exclude lab from a private league. I mean come on GGG make it happen.......

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Turtledove wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

My friends notified me that private leagues were gonna be a thing, i instantly checked with great anticipation to see the announcement only to be really disappointed that there is no option to exclude lab from a private league. I mean come on GGG make it happen.......

This is a great idea! I suggest it be added to the opening post.

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Xavathos wrote:

Yes please, so we can once and for all bury this cesspool of negativity beneath 20 feet of spinning blades and spike traps.

All hail the Emperor!

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Zaludoz wrote:

I think I may give PoE another chance on the PS4... MAYBE a controller will make a difference. (I really hate point-click movement interfaces when precision control is required, IE in the Labyrinth, but such precision isn't required in most games with point-click interfaces, that I have enjoyed)

The method of control still doesn't change the basic design flaw of the Labyrinth existing as a mini-game with its own rules compared to the main game, and feeling more like a piece of fan-fiction based on PoE.

I'll likely end up deleting it off my PS4 harddrive for space to update Warframe or something, but we'll see.