SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]
" If the people say both shit and fuck, will there need to be half of a truckload for changes to occur or do these words have a different damage effectiveness? I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready. Last edited by Pyrokar#6587 on Mar 4, 2018, 5:34:14 AM
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" Ah, forgot * Statistics were presented with the standard assumption that 47,5% of the involved will do exactly that. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" My irony meter is cracking up on the floor right about now. Particularly regarding the comments "baby rage," "insults," and "circle-arguments" [sic]. Seriously. He's turning red. There was plenty of mature discussion, actually. Your inability to participate in it is not of consequence. Wash your hands, Exile! Last edited by gibbousmoon#4656 on Mar 4, 2018, 10:22:31 AM
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I'd have to say, the main differences are: the speed of posts and location of posts. (It's certainly not quality of post content)
Speed of posts: This feedback is pouring in all at one time. With the Labyrinth, SOME people knew right away that they didn't like it. They wouldn't stand for it, and spoke up. The rest TRY to like it, they TRY to put up with it, they think they're "earning" something. They don't complain at first, because they'll be put down with "git gud" comments, or they'll lose face in some other way. Over time, they eventually get fed up with it, and they post about it. Sometimes it's due to the repetition for each character for each league, that it's just too much... sure they'll suffer through it once per character at first, but it eats away at their enthusiasm to play the game until they just fall away. Location of posts: MOST Labyrinth posts that I've seen, have been isolated to the feedback and suggestions forum, tucked neatly away in an area that doesn't get much traffic - and the proper place for feedback. These league posts are in general discussion, likely also on reddit, but I don't check there, and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, either because they agree that it's a bad mechanic for a league, or just like the idea of it being easier. Very few are shouting back to "git gud", and with the new 3 second timer after netting, really, they don't need the death nets... but nobody feels that it is a valid comeback against them. Nobody is trying to like the league mechanics, nobody is standing for it. Maybe it's because this impacts every single area they play, rather than a once-per-character-per-league thing, but I don't see that as a valid distinction in why to change something or not, in this case. That's my take on the differences here. EDIT: Lesson learned: post feedback in general discussion and reddit. (I mean, when the devs posted about Labyrinth changes, we saw the same speed of posts pouring into there about the Labyrinth... it just gets ignored here in feedback and suggestions.) Last edited by Zaludoz#6325 on Mar 4, 2018, 8:57:50 AM
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" This, and also the ease of addressing the concerns. "The Labyrinth is trash-tier content." <-- How the fuck are you supposed to address this overnight? Even if you agree with it? Like others, I agree that GGG hopes that Bestiary changes will make it into the base game, not least because Pokemon mechanics make bank. And you know what? Bully for them. I hope it DOES make bank. And good on them for taking a known addictive mechanic and adding it to their game, and good on them for taking a hard fast look at things which interfere with that mechanic working well. ...It's really not relevant to the Labyrinth issues. They've already spent a good amount of time and resources improving the Labyrinth experience, and I have no doubt they will continue doing so for as long as the game exists. But it is necessarily a step-by-step process. Labyrinth haters: You've been heard. Now your task is to be patient. If you want to continue criticizing the content, by all means do so, but try and make that criticism relevant to the state of the Labyrinth as it is now. It really has improved somewhat--have you noticed? Acknowledge what is better, so that GGG knows they are on the right track*, and then deliver your vitriol. *Anyone who knows anything about behavior modification knows that praising the desired behavior is much more effective than criticizing the undesired behavior.
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Protip: Learn this and take it into your job, to make your coworkers better at theirs and your life easier. Yay!
Wash your hands, Exile!
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" this quote you consider a 'feedback'? no wonder noone cares. this is a) opinion. personal emotional opinion. aka nobody cares b) no content, no value, 1-liner similar to millions of similar worthless pixels around the internet. aka nobody cares c) sh.. eating analogies and 'dung bettle' stories and poems. using very Big Words everywhere and spaming the same stuff EVERYWHERE aka author of said 'gems' can be safely ignored because nothing of value can be found around there this is the difference you guys do not want to see. you made yourself look like fools (angry fools) and had serious issues providing actual feedback because - once again - you not liking something IS NOT A PROBLEM. deal with it. there are 6+ billions people and any of them have their own opinion/likes/dislikes. people who provided actual feedback actually made stuff done (like ES/life changes done pretty early on). but bunch of angry people who somehow think are entitled to game 100% how they like or else!.. sorry, you were treated just like any other company would have treated you. ignored, sidelined, forgotten |
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" Yes, a useless piece of feedback. Which was my entire point. A point you evidently missed. I recommend you read posts in their entirety and make a genuine effort to understand the point made therein. You might find (surprise, surprise!) that you agree with that point. Wash your hands, Exile!
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" this is how the ring leader of your puny revolt provides feedback. maybe i was lucky but that was like 2nd or 3rd post ive found he made few pages 'ago'. significant portion of entire fuss looks exactly like that. you wonder why noone cares? as long as the major complainers (and there are like 5 names that bump the threads over and over again) keep this 'high' level of content creation you are doomed to fail to even be listened to not mentioning achieving a change no rhetoric skill will save people who made themselves famous for inventing dozens of 'fun' dong bettle and sh.. eating stories used as 'arguments' you somehow believing otherwise.. cool. this entire thread and small crusade might end up as PhD thesis someday |
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" Yes, plus raics' point about there being an easy fix available for beast capture. Also, since my recent "contributions" to GGG bother sidtherat so much I guess I should stop doing that? Or not, he's not really bothered by that, he's just grasping at straws trying to belly-ache about something. (Sid, glass-cannon check hahaha) Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" Perhaps you should take your own advice and give up on futile tasks already? (I take it as a given that trying to shut down people with different opinions is a futile task.) Step away from threads that trigger you. My "irony meter" comment was a reference to the fact that you, of all people, are lecturing others on how to be more courteous. You see, when I see your name next to this or similar threads, I don't even have to open it to know that your post will be nasty in tone and, most likely, devoid of content which contributes meaningfully to the discussion. Advanced age is no excuse for discourtesy, sid. I've seen you post in threads on other topics, and in many you are courteous (relatively) and logical. Furthermore, you are knowledgeable and (imo) frequently correct! You understand people's statements, and I often see you point out bullshit in a way that helps move the discussion forward. I think I've only seen you exhibit "baby rage" (calm down, those are your words) and a persistent inability and/or unwillingness to grasp the points of others in threads on this topic. My advice for you and everyone else: If you genuinely care about the game, let people vent, and then join the collective effort to pick out what points of feedback may be of use to the devs. Where specific statements are logically incorrect, simply point it out. Excessive emotion benefits no one; least of all yourself. Wash your hands, Exile!
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