SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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mezmery wrote:
went through uber lab with 3.9 hp vaal pact wander w tabula at turmoil race
no prob.

Speaking of which, I got three uber trials early on and everything after that up to level 90 were repetitions of those three so I ultimately didn't fully ascend. Sure, could have just used 820 and I did share some of mine that way, but I prefer finding them myself for some reason.

Ah well, didn't really need those last two points anyway but that's the reason I supported the idea of shifting the weights of completed trials so you have a slightly better chance of encountering those you haven't done yet. It isn't a good feeling when you get an unlucky streak like that and you could cream uber lab a long time ago.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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raics wrote:
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mezmery wrote:
went through uber lab with 3.9 hp vaal pact wander w tabula at turmoil race
no prob.

Speaking of which, I got three uber trials early on and everything after that up to level 90 were repetitions of those three so I ultimately didn't fully ascend. Sure, could have just used 820 and I did share some of mine that way, but I prefer finding them myself for some reason.

Ah well, didn't really need those last two points anyway but that's the reason I supported the idea of shifting the weights of completed trials so you have a slightly better chance of encountering those you haven't done yet. It isn't a good feeling when you get an unlucky streak like that and you could cream uber lab a long time ago.

The RNG gating seems a bit too much to me to be honest.
If you get lucky, you can access it very early but .... You can easily not have all 6 alone by lvl 90 :S.

But I'm pretty sure GGG is fine with it because of the economy so .....
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Fruz wrote:
But I'm pretty sure GGG is fine with it because of the economy so .....

Probably social aspect more than economy, asking for tips for solved trials is somewhat frowned upon, though I see it becoming more common. I was a bit surprised in this event when some left tips because I sure didn't mention any.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Fruz wrote:
I was expecting to speak to adults coming to this forum to be honest (when I arrived couple of years ago), or at least people that have the basic communication skills required to live in society .....
I was obviously wrong, I'm greatly underestimating some it seems ...

Ones like yourself?
I simply point out bullshit in your posts (especially when you make falalcies or absurd analogies out of context).
Looking how many words support removed, it makes you quite angry.
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Fruz wrote:
You can go through the lab with any correct build, the content of the labyrinth will absolutely not matter when planning your build.

Until you go support build? Oh, support is not "any" or "correct" build then.
"War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost."
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Nishrek wrote:
Until you go support build? Oh, support is not "any" or "correct" build then.

We already went over that, playing a support build solo is the same thing as using a summoner without summons.

Though a supporter can likely pull it off solo if needed, there are skills that can do the job with minimum investment and uber lab isn't 'that' hard. Anyone got a support build handy? I'd like to see it fail before agreeing it's impossible.
Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.

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Last edited by raics#7540 on Jul 30, 2017, 11:17:30 AM
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raics wrote:
We already went over that, playing a support build solo is the same thing as using a summoner without summons.

"Any build" includes also "support build", right?
Like you've just said. It simply requires higher skill cap, that's all.
GGG claims that is possible to beat lab with level 1 char and no stuff anyway.
"War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost."
Last edited by Nishrek#6401 on Jul 30, 2017, 11:29:38 AM
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raics wrote:
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mezmery wrote:
went through uber lab with 3.9 hp vaal pact wander w tabula at turmoil race
no prob.

Speaking of which, I got three uber trials early on and everything after that up to level 90 were repetitions of those three so I ultimately didn't fully ascend. Sure, could have just used 820 and I did share some of mine that way, but I prefer finding them myself for some reason.

Ah well, didn't really need those last two points anyway but that's the reason I supported the idea of shifting the weights of completed trials so you have a slightly better chance of encountering those you haven't done yet. It isn't a good feeling when you get an unlucky streak like that and you could cream uber lab a long time ago.

i just go to 820 when i feel strong enough
No rest for the wicked
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raics wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
But I'm pretty sure GGG is fine with it because of the economy so .....

Probably social aspect more than economy, asking for tips for solved trials is somewhat frowned upon, though I see it becoming more common. I was a bit surprised in this event when some left tips because I sure didn't mention any.

Well, yeah, those are two things that I kinda put in the same category tbh.


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raics wrote:
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Nishrek wrote:
Until you go support build? Oh, support is not "any" or "correct" build then.

We already went over that, playing a support build solo is the same thing as using a summoner without summons.

Though a supporter can likely pull it off solo if needed, there are skills that can do the job with minimum investment and uber lab isn't 'that' hard. Anyone got a support build handy? I'd like to see it fail before agreeing it's impossible.

There is so much power creep that a support can just take one 4L and smash the lab if needed tbh.

But anyway, I never mentioned solo, the guy is just going in his own tunnel, disconnected from others ....
Support builds are good in a group, lab can be done in a group, period.
The labyrinth still has absolutely nothing to do in a build planning.


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Nishrek wrote:
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You think that [removed by Fruz] means that the support removes something ?MM lol!
That's cute.

Anyway.
Me ignore you.
No time.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jul 30, 2017, 12:55:00 PM
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mezmery wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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mezmery wrote:

it's fun how you praize divercity and deny unique labyrynth experience, just because you are bad player.


It is interesting that you can't accept the facts and instead have to launch into a silly attempt at personal attacks. I have to assume that it is because you aren't able to formulate coherent arguments. Next time why don't you try some insults that are at least a bit more interesting or unique. May I suggest "Your mother wears combat boots." or try https://carm.org/pick-your-insult-page or even http://unapologeticallymundane.com/2011/11/02/insulting-jerks-the-classy-way/


my facts are here.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1841349
none of them has any prob with lab. so you are just bad.



I see why you prefer just insulting because your plain insults make more sense.

Just because some people like playing mediocre platformer-jump-here-run-there game play, it does not mean that I have to like platformer-jump-here-run-there in my arpg, especially mediocre platformer-jump-here-run-there game play.

Also the link you gave is just a list of people playing PoE. It is not a list of people that necessarily love playing mediocre platformer-jump-here-run-there in PoE. So, that link would seem to be a non-sequitur in your argument as well?
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
I don't see what doing Lab in a loincloth with your only weapon your man sword has to do with anything?

Ok your super uber and can do no wrong and have done the lab so many times you know every pixel before it happens due to super jedi powers.

The game is made for people like Matthias who dies like 3 times on a ranger build doing uber lab. I also saw many many ES streamers just get a friend to do it on stream.

But I guess people who stream POE for a living are not up to your L2P standards.

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