SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

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Nishrek wrote:

Fruz does. He is a psychic, don't you know that?

After hundreds of pages, some people just don't get it.

You are projecting again after hundreds of pages. Then you do wonder why people do not take you seriously.
O rly?

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mezmery wrote:

i also dont like lab very much, but i love 20-30 c per run without any time and currency investment.

So, you do not like the lab, but you want to stay it as it is.
WTF?
BTW Nobody here wants to take away your 20-30c per run.

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Fruz wrote:

if they had to explain why they take every single decision in the game, there would be many many more manifesto, and bigger ones.

Yeah, sure manifesto about one of the most important factors when creating a build. No big deal....
We have more important topics like "2.4.0 Skills Delayed" or "Item Filter Performance" or "How We Approach Console Development"

It seems to be a new "trend" in this thread, when people have absolutely nothing to say and don't understand what's happening anymore, it all becomes "duh! you're projecting" :)).
That tells a lot, it really does.

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Nishrek wrote:

Yeah, sure manifesto about one of the most important factors when creating a build. No big deal....

Are you [Removed by Fruz] ???
Let's make a manifesto on every single detail of the story until maps, players have to go through it anyway, they have the right to know !!!! right ??

/rofl

Everything you need to know to create your build is written in the ascendancy panel + the wiki.
If there is something about it that you don't understand there, try harder ... or stay as you are lol, whatever after all.

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Turtledove wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

it's fun how you praize divercity and deny unique labyrynth experience, just because you are bad player.

It is interesting that you can't accept the facts and instead have to launch into a silly attempt at personal attacks. I have to assume that it is because you aren't able to formulate coherent arguments. Next time why don't you try some insults that are at least a bit more interesting or unique. May I suggest "Your mother wears combat boots." or try https://carm.org/pick-your-insult-page or even http://unapologeticallymundane.com/2011/11/02/insulting-jerks-the-classy-way/

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Turtledove wrote:

also wanted to give him an option that wouldn't get him put on probation. I am an overly helpful fellow after all.

So what he said is going to put him on probation unless you "warn" him ??

sigh .... like seriously.
You are way more antagonizing than he is with this taunting/trolling, you honestly are.
And who are you, to talk about probating others, by the way ?

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Pyrokar wrote:

@zalhan2 what is VD?

Venereal disease (gonorrhea, syphilis etc.) In case you meant the question.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

@Turtle, how is the boot thingy an insult?

Okay, maybe that wouldn't be insult if my mother was goth but she's not goth. Trust me it would be the absolute meanest worst thing anyone could possibly say to me. I would immediately break down crying. I also wanted to give him an option that wouldn't get him put on probation. I am an overly helpful fellow after all.

You are very helpful, that's true. It's a shame they try to bully you.
But that's how bullies are i guess. They never let go.

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Kellog wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

@zalhan2 what is VD?

Venereal disease (gonorrhea, syphilis etc.) In case you meant the question.

Thanks for clearing that up. I am not good with abbreviations.
My first thought about it was Vin Diesel lol.

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Turtledove wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

D3 is a great game! PoE has better game play. PoE has far more build diversity and replay-ability. These are probably the two most important things in an ARPG. The one thing that makes D3 a better game right now is that PoE has Labyrinth. That indicates to me that GGG missed the mark on labyrinth. GGG has apparently corrected for this a bit in 3.0. I'll try it and see if I'd like to come back.

it's fun how you praize divercity and deny unique labyrynth experience, just because you are bad player.

It is interesting that you can't accept the facts and instead have to launch into a silly attempt at personal attacks. I have to assume that it is because you aren't able to formulate coherent arguments. Next time why don't you try some insults that are at least a bit more interesting or unique. May I suggest "Your mother wears combat boots." or try https://carm.org/pick-your-insult-page or even http://unapologeticallymundane.com/2011/11/02/insulting-jerks-the-classy-way/

my facts are here.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1841349
none of them has any prob with lab. so you are just bad.

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Fruz wrote:

Let's make a manifesto on every single detail of the story until maps, players have to go through it anyway, they have the right to know !!!! right ???

Learn to read. You are really in dire need of this skill. Manifestos are about "development" decisions, not about how to do a build.
Lol
Please. Show me a quote where I want manifestos about storyline
There is none, so stop pulling things from your ass.
OTOH when your only argument is "because lore says so" it might be a good idea

Are you trying to misunderstand everything on purpose ?
Well, I guess that's what trolling is about.

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Nishrek wrote:

Yeah, sure manifesto about one of the most important factors when creating a build. No big deal....

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Nishrek wrote:

Manifestos are about "development" decisions, not about how to do a build.

But let me enlighten you ( because, not like you, I'm not full of bad faith ):
When creating a build, labyrinth is absolutely, completely irrelevant.
Every correct build ( that could reach endgame ) can do the lab, period.
Like the rest of the game.
The storyline is a factor as important as the lab when making a build : neither are relevant.

I asked about the story quote, but it looks too inconvenient for you.
Sigh

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Fruz wrote:

The storyline is a factor as important as the lab when making a build : neither are relevant.

Ascendancy and lab are no relevant when creating build?
The decision about gating Ascendancy points (which are one of the most important factors) behind lab is not important (it is something else than "explain how to make a build" FYI)?
LMAO
Words fail me...
BTW What happens with "you can't change lab because of lore"? Irrelevant now?

You can go through the lab with any correct build, the content of the labyrinth will absolutely not matter when planning your build.
The mechanics of the labyrinth ( which is what Pyrokar was talking about, when he was saying that a detailed development manifesto would be nice) are absolutely irrelevant here.

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Nishrek wrote:

I asked about the story quote, but it looks too inconvenient for you.

WOW
for real ?
One more thing that I have to make it completely explicit for you to understand I guess, you are just embarrassing yourself honestly :

I put a sarcastic line, of the same kind of yours (as relevant and "brilliant" as yours lol, on the same topic), to show how what you said was [Removed by Fruz].
And you think that Im pretending that you actually said the content of that line ? Like wtf ?
I was expecting to speak to adults coming to this forum to be honest (when I arrived couple of years ago), or at least people that have the basic communication skills required to live in society .....
I was obviously wrong, I'm greatly underestimating some it seems ...


The whole point was to show you how freaking silly your statement was ... but from now on, I will talk to you with just simple words if you want.

You understand now ?
Explanations enough ?

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Fruz wrote:

You can go through the lab with any correct build, the content of the labyrinth will absolutely not matter when planning your build.

went through uber lab with 3.9 hp vaal pact wander w tabula at turmoil race
no prob.