SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

if you actually played a game, not only this retarded forum thread' you'd knew. Also it is requiered to register here to play the game, so 100% of community visited this site at least once, and 913 means nothing.

you cant possibly know they are satisfied or no.

It's the developer's responsibility to make a game [...]

There is no "responsibility", GGG produce a game : you are free to play it or not, and they are succesful.

Responsibility has abolutely nothing to do with anything here, people with actual responsibilities know it and would not use the word incorrectly the way you do I guess ( except trolling of course ).

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Pyrokar wrote:

No, i was thinking something like the thoughts behind implementing lab they way they did, why they put the class points behind it, why were the traps done the way they were, their damage types, their interaction with current gameplay, why were the trials not a one time thing. You know, stuff behind the scenes of the labhrinth.

I think that there was a podcast where they explain how they married the ascendancy and the lab together.
I mean, they don't need a big reason to do so, as long as they decided and then fully commited to it, it's enough.

I would not mind such a manifesto, but if you start askign "why? why? why?", you will need many more manifesto for everything, imho.
And the trials are a one time thing now, so I see little point asking about this one. I think hat it just did make more sense that your character needs to do the trials before accessing the labyrinth, but they removed the "per character" restriction because it wasn't so much of a big deal and people didn't like it.

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Nishrek wrote:

Fruz does. He is a psychic, don't you know that?

After hundreds of pages, some people just don't get it.
They just ... don't.

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mezmery wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

D3 is a great game! PoE has better game play. PoE has far more build diversity and replay-ability. These are probably the two most important things in an ARPG. The one thing that makes D3 a better game right now is that PoE has Labyrinth. That indicates to me that GGG missed the mark on labyrinth. GGG has apparently corrected for this a bit in 3.0. I'll try it and see if I'd like to come back.

it's fun how you praize divercity and deny unique labyrynth experience, just because you are bad player.

Because (and GGG has admitted this) Lab kills builds. It's as friendly to POE as VD is to sex.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Because (and GGG has admitted this) Lab kills builds.

LOL
Please show us where GGG has "admitted" such BS.
Lab does not kill builds, players that suck at it ( at least here ) will try to find many excuses to try to blame something else than themselves, that's it.
But the problem comes from them, regarding this.

If I posted the american has blue in it you would expect me to prove also.
Read their quotes, they know it has damaged diversity and even modified it to (badly) mitigate some of the diversity die off.

Don't act as if the BS that you are trying to spread was obvious.
Because that's just what it is : BS.
You are wrong, you are just bad at the lab, and it does not damage build diversity at all ( and you would know if you had even a little bit of knowledge of it - you don't ).

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mezmery wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

D3 is a great game! PoE has better game play. PoE has far more build diversity and replay-ability. These are probably the two most important things in an ARPG. The one thing that makes D3 a better game right now is that PoE has Labyrinth. That indicates to me that GGG missed the mark on labyrinth. GGG has apparently corrected for this a bit in 3.0. I'll try it and see if I'd like to come back.

it's fun how you praize divercity and deny unique labyrynth experience, just because you are bad player.

It is interesting that you can't accept the facts and instead have to launch into a silly attempt at personal attacks. I have to assume that it is because you aren't able to formulate coherent arguments. Next time why don't you try some insults that are at least a bit more interesting or unique. May I suggest "Your mother wears combat boots." or try https://carm.org/pick-your-insult-page or even http://unapologeticallymundane.com/2011/11/02/insulting-jerks-the-classy-way/

@zalhan2 what is VD?

@Turtle, how is the boot thingy an insult?

"Your mom is so fat, she ate most of the normal and cruel trap rooms." Now that's an insult. Or is it a praise. She might be a hero. Perspective, perspective...

@Fruz slippery slope on asking questions? Ok man i didn't know this was a top secret goverment agency or something. Hope they don't have to shoot us if they ever post a dev manifesto again.

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Pyrokar wrote:

@zalhan2 what is VD?

@Turtle, how is that an insult)? "Your mom is so fat, she ate most of the normal and cruel trap rooms." Now that's an insult. Or is it a praise. She might be a hero. Perspective, perspective...

@Fruz slippery slope on asking questions? Ok man i didn't know this was a top secret goverment agency or something. Hope they don't have to shoot us if they ever post a dev manifesto again.

100% guarantee to fly over their heads, at least i was entertained.

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Pyrokar wrote:

@Fruz slippery slope on asking questions? Ok man i didn't know this was a top secret goverment agency or something. Hope they don't have to shoot us if they ever post a dev manifesto again.

Not slippery slope, but I mean, if they had to explain why they take every single decision in the game, there would be many many more manifesto, and bigger ones.
I am just saying that even if there was a manifesto, with all those questions, you might be expecting a bit too much.

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Pyrokar wrote:

@Turtle, how is the boot thingy an insult?

Okay, maybe that wouldn't be insult if my mother was goth but she's not goth. Trust me it would be the absolute meanest worst thing anyone could possibly say to me. I would immediately break down crying. I also wanted to give him an option that wouldn't get him put on probation. I am an overly helpful fellow after all.