SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

They clearly didn't want to spend lots of resources on the lab for now.

Yes, they're overworked with the 3.0 release and the screaming probably forced their hand to show at least something. So, if this by some chance manages to appease the playerbase who knows how long we'll have to wait for actual improvements to the lab. Sure, it doesn't directly bother me because I'm fine with it either way but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see real improvements, it has the room to be much better.

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Nishrek wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Actually, if you would open your eyes, you would see very quickly that most do have things that they would like improved in the lab.

Please, show me. Open my eyes and enlighten me.
And answer my lore question (if the answer is not some "I think X" without any basis in the game or lore)

Sure we do, I had a few hefty suggestion posts in here, but you'd have to make me a good offer to look for it. Too bad we can't list own posts from a thread.

I agreed with you on the lore part, there isn't much in the game anymore to support the repeated content model, I'd like to see that changed at some point.

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Xavathos wrote:

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3.0 will be released and no significant changes will have been made. Any changes from there will be incremental at best. ...

Sorry if I've sort of taken this statement out of context. But I've heard a similar sentiment from others.

From the perspective of most of the suggestions in the OP the statement is true that the 3.0 release didn't make any changes along those lines. I think what is going on is that GGG has their long range plan or road-map for PoE. I have to agree with their decision to add 6 acts before going back and fixing the previous labyrinth screw-up. Due to limited resources the only kind of thing that could be done on labyrinth is what they appear to have done in the 3.0 beta. That is reducing the bad content in normal and cruel. It is also true the points that people are making that labyrinth will be the only place in the great PoE content where normal and cruel are still things. So from that perspective, 3.0 has screwed up the lore of labyrinth to be downright stupid.

Again, on the positive side, it seems clear that GGG recognizes the labyrinth is problematic and they are doing their best to address it. It also seems clear that they will continue to do more.

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The_Reporter wrote:

I'm out!

Take care and always keep reporting. ;)

I vote for rework the lab, NOT to set them available through all those trials BUT to require act 8 to do ALL difficulties, as even lowest labyrinth WILL be as hard as map tier 2 already.

Its up to you, GGG.

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PHRandom wrote:

I vote for rework the lab, NOT to set them available through all those trials BUT to require act 8 to do ALL difficulties, as even lowest labyrinth WILL be as hard as map tier 2 already.

Its up to you, GGG.

I move they pull the lab out and make it a completely new game. Based on the Lab lovers comments no one would play POE but the 3 of us.

Clearly this is the future of ARPGS so go full retard!

Even if they do this and never do any more development or seasons , POE will be a magnitude better than now.

Even better do both until the LAB game fails due to no one liking that super bad content.

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Turtledove wrote:

Again, on the positive side, it seems clear that GGG recognizes the labyrinth is problematic and they are doing their best to address it. It also seems clear that they will continue to do more.

What honestly makes you think this, the fact that they are adjusting the lab to better fit the 3.0 shaped game? Its more a consequence of the 10 act system, then it is about the fact that the lab "needs" changes.

Furthermore, as I've already indicated the changes to me indicates that GGG is unwilling to separate the lab and AC points, so your mighty quest is all for nothing. How does it feel to waste over a year of your life compiling a massive list, all for nothing?


It seems clear to me these changes in 3.0 to the lab is as far as they are going to do. Only time will tell if this is the case, but I have a feeling like it will be.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Again, on the positive side, it seems clear that GGG recognizes the labyrinth is problematic and they are doing their best to address it. It also seems clear that they will continue to do more.

What honestly makes you think this, the fact that they are adjusting the lab to better fit the 3.0 shaped game? Its more a consequence of the 10 act system, then it is about the fact that the lab "needs" changes.

Furthermore, as I've already indicated the changes to me indicates that GGG is unwilling to separate the lab and AC points, so your mighty quest is all for nothing. How does it feel to waste over a year of your life compiling a massive list, all for nothing?


It seems clear to me these changes in 3.0 to the lab is as far as they are going to do. Only time will tell if this is the case, but I have a feeling like it will be.

You said that before the last changes.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Again, on the positive side, it seems clear that GGG recognizes the labyrinth is problematic and they are doing their best to address it. It also seems clear that they will continue to do more.

What honestly makes you think this, the fact that they are adjusting the lab to better fit the 3.0 shaped game? Its more a consequence of the 10 act system, then it is about the fact that the lab "needs" changes.

Furthermore, as I've already indicated the changes to me indicates that GGG is unwilling to separate the lab and AC points, so your mighty quest is all for nothing. How does it feel to waste over a year of your life compiling a massive list, all for nothing?


It seems clear to me these changes in 3.0 to the lab is as far as they are going to do. Only time will tell if this is the case, but I have a feeling like it will be.

You said that before the last changes.

Said what, go find a quote specifically of what you are talking about.

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goetzjam wrote:

Furthermore, as I've already indicated the changes to me indicates that GGG is unwilling to separate the lab and AC points, so your mighty quest is all for nothing. How does it feel to waste over a year of your life compiling a massive list, all for nothing?

TO YOU it seems that way, yet you spew out a sentence about wasting his time? Why should HE feel like he's wasted his time, just because YOU believe these changes are more about 3.0 than changing the lab itself?

I'm sorry, you just have this dick-like, arrogant way of debating.

Should I write "how does it feel to have wasted one year of YOUR time defending the lab as it is, only to have it shortened, cutted and changed"?