SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Xavathos wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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Xavathos wrote:

Like I said, data please. It's pointless to discuss the opinion of one or two people when planning large changes like this.

GGG like any company, plans their actions using data analysis. If data suggests something should be changed, it will. But it most likely didn't as they have not addressed this in 3.0.

So again I say provide data to prove your claims or let the ones responsible handle this.

Actually this contradicts an email I got from customer service which says they don't like to be reactionary, they build content they feel is good for the game and tend to be resistant to changing things unless they feel the content needs tuning. They do not feel that making it a popularity contest is good for the game.

In this case a huge number of people think they made a mistake and they are being myopic in their view and missing the big picture, which can happen when you spend a lot of resources on something.

A huge number of people, WHERE???

/facepalm

You just don't listen. It's not a popularity contest, it's business planning using data analysis. Where is yours??

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Any evidence you will just say isn't real, no one is wasting their time. Read the thread it's pretty obvious by lists and posts and scores of threads (which no other issue since FFA loot has had).

You're using a common trolling technique to muddy the waters of an issue even the devs has said is real and responded to it.

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goetzjam wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Any evidence you will just say isn't real, no one is wasting their time. Read the thread it's pretty obvious by lists and posts and scores of threads (which no other issue since FFA loot has had).

You're using a common trolling technique to muddy the waters of an issue even the devs has said is real and responded to it.

"issues" see you think this compares to a true issue like desync or ffa, when it does not. Its a piece of content and there are tons of things you can do to lesson the pain. In the instance of FFA loot, the issue is people didnt want to play with other players if they couldn't get loot that was meant for them, to this day Chris still indicates that the change to allocation has a large loss in terms of idealism for the game. However, with that being said the alternative to the loot system was to play alone, not something that you as a game company or as an online ARPG want people to feel the need to be FORCED to do.


The post count here is 70% or more the same 10 people, so just because its one big massive circle jerk doesn't mean it should compare to one of the more important discussions that ever happened on these forums.

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Fruz wrote:

Irrelevant, most people have definitely better to do than coming here argue about the lab, even if they like it or don't mind it.

If you want the AC point though, GGG is "forcing" you to go through it.
Deal with it.
Simple as that.

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ewolow wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Any evidence you will just say isn't real, no one is wasting their time. Read the thread it's pretty obvious by lists and posts and scores of threads (which no other issue since FFA loot has had).

You're using a common trolling technique to muddy the waters of an issue even the devs has said is real and responded to it.

"issues" see you think this compares to a true issue like desync or ffa, when it does not. Its a piece of content and there are tons of things you can do to lesson the pain. In the instance of FFA loot, the issue is people didnt want to play with other players if they couldn't get loot that was meant for them, to this day Chris still indicates that the change to allocation has a large loss in terms of idealism for the game. However, with that being said the alternative to the loot system was to play alone, not something that you as a game company or as an online ARPG want people to feel the need to be FORCED to do.


The post count here is 70% or more the same 10 people, so just because its one big massive circle jerk doesn't mean it should compare to one of the more important discussions that ever happened on these forums.

You are pretty much 1 of 2 people constantly rebutting (used loosely) posters on this thread. You do not represent a large portion of the base on this matter. You love the lab, go do the lab. Don't force the rest of us to do lab.

Simple as that.

Signed poster #11.

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goetzjam wrote:

Theres a lot more people rebutting in this thread then me and the fruz guy, they simply don't feel its necessary to contribute ATM.

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Turtledove wrote:

Talking scientifically of course, I'd theorize that eating shit would primarily lead to an increased unpleasant odor rating to the flatulence rather than increased volume or frequency.