Feedback and Suggestions - SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas] - Forum

" raics wrote: " The_Reporter wrote: In it's current state, the game will be junked by the console audience. Only a tiny vocal minority actually enjoy being in that place once, never mind multiple times. I'm fairly optimistic about that one, console games have a greater tendency to mix and match genres than PC games. Minigames are also somewhat of a console thing, you'd get fishing, racing, slot machines, card games and whatnot in perfectly respectable RPGs with serious plotlines and atmosphere. PoE should fit right in, I mean, we have fishing too, just need to find how to do it first. Also, it's different for us who are here for a long time, but exclusive console players never knew PoE without the lab, that's a big factor too. Im 100% on agreement with raics on this one. Its not coincidental Inundated with cockroaches, I am https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions	Posted by Regulator#4587 on Feb 19, 2017, 2:12:40 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" huetzer wrote: why GGG insists on the laby, when like 80% of the players really dont like it? I really can't understad this... That number is made up. You're hurting your argument and those of people you agree with by posting things like that.	Posted by DurianMcgregor#7045 on Feb 19, 2017, 2:22:14 PM Quote this Post
" The_Reporter wrote: " Tin_Foil_Hat wrote: " sidtherat wrote: this guy had and still has many more accounts :) at some point he lost track and responded to himself few times in a row Yeah just like how he bought a $1000 supporter pack during perandus league. LUL Spoiler Shame they didnt exist during perandus when he joined. You two fools aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. My original account is from 2012. Now, run along and do some better detective work. Sure, buddy. Spoiler Too bad youre lying and your previous accounts post history shows it. Detective work is already done, all you can do is sit here and keep lying even when all the facts are stacked up against you. Shame youd rather sit here and keep pretending than just admit youre blowing smoke out of your ass. Youre just a low grade troll at this point. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in! Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.	Posted by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:06:15 PM Quote this Post
I like Laby :^)	Posted by The_Human_Tornado#7752 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:07:18 PM Quote this Post
" Regulator wrote: Its not coincidental Lab is kinda irrelevant for console success, I think, PoE has plenty of things that will offend a console player quite enough. We can probably assume some of those will be resolved before release, it's a separate game so they can get creative with no fear of messing something up. However, some are even what makes PoE a good PC game, we'll see how much are they in touch with console player demands, they won't be able even to see it's a problem otherwise. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:25:22 PM	Posted by raics#7540 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:24:39 PM Quote this Post
" sucemab wrote: Just watched the 3.0 video teaser and saw this at the end: "Six new acts. A single playthrough.". But they choose to keep : - 4 X (useless) trials - 4 X Labyrinth Isn't the "single playthrough" thing there to avoid repetitive content ? My point of view: - completely remove all trials - remove normal, cruel and merciless Labyrinth - keep uber Labyrinth as something that unlocks ascendency class (and maybe a few points) - dispatch ascendency points as rewards from the new bosses or from specific map bosses 4 x trials + 4 x lab just doesn't make sense (at least for me) in a single playthrough configuration. This is so 2.x version of the game. " goetzjam wrote: You've done the trials before yes, but not everyone has. Its funny as much as new player argument gets used, the trials are there to introduce people into the mechanics that will be in the lab. Thats why you do them once per league, so you can get refreshed as well. They should make them optional like you can skip tutorials in some games. And if I get rekt in laby then I should blame myself. " goetzjam wrote: You are purposing moving the ability to get AC from early\mid\late game to ultra late game only, from there they go fetch the remaining points? I don't think too many people would agree with that. It would help offset the massive power creep, but I doubt that causes less complaints. At least with the way it is now you can get AC points before you go do the end of act 4, which significantly helps. Yeah this or what XibalbaL suggests. " XibalbaL wrote: The only thing that urgently needs to be addressed with the lab is the fact that you must do it 4 times a character. Make it so if I skip normal and cruel labs, but complete merci lab, I get all the points up to that lab. No need to make me go in an area 50 levels lower than mine, especially if I've already done it in a higher level version. It doesn't make getting ascendency easier, it is just less boring. If I do merciless lab I can do it in normal with no problem. So why people wouldn't be ok with that except for the sake of saying no to anything related to a laby change? Last edited by sucemab#1629 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:31:24 PM	Posted by sucemab#1629 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:29:24 PM Quote this Post
" sucemab wrote: It doesn't make getting ascendency easier, it is just less boring. If I do merciless lab I can do it in normal with no problem. So why people wouldn't be ok with that except for the sake of saying no to anything related to a laby change? Oof, stop it right there. What you're saying makes sense but that's a slippery slope, once you start going there it's only a matter of time before there's an option to skip everything and go straight into endgame. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]►	Posted by raics#7540 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:34:11 PM Quote this Post
" raics wrote: Oof, stop it right there. What you're saying makes sense but that's a slippery slope, once you start going there it's only a matter of time before there's an option to skip everything and go straight into endgame. Well, of course - there are many players who would love such an option :P Need game info? Check out the Wiki at: https://www.poewiki.net/ Contact support@grindinggear.com for account issues. Check out How to Report Bugs + Post Images at: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18347	Posted by adghar#1824 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:34:52 PM Quote this Post
" adghar wrote: " raics wrote: Oof, stop it right there. What you're saying makes sense but that's a slippery slope, once you start going there it's only a matter of time before there's an option to skip everything and go straight into endgame. Well, of course - there are many players who would love such an option :P But unlike other games similar or in this genre there is a purpose to leveling, including but not limited to choices made along the way. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam#3084 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:36:50 PM Quote this Post
" adghar wrote: Well, of course - there are many players who would love such an option :P Exactly, some games do it, but I'd personally be much happier if they kept well away from it :) Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]►	Posted by raics#7540 on Feb 19, 2017, 3:37:58 PM Quote this Post