SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

this guy had and still has many more accounts :) at some point he lost track and responded to himself few times in a row

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sidtherat wrote:

this guy had and still has many more accounts :) at some point he lost track and responded to himself few times in a row

Yeah just like how he bought a $1000 supporter pack during perandus league. LUL

The only thing that urgently needs to be addressed with the lab is the fact that you must do it 4 times a character.

Make it so if I skip normal and cruel labs, but complete merci lab, I get all the points up to that lab.

No need to make me go in an area 50 levels lower than mine, especially if I've already done it in a higher level version.

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XibalbaL wrote:

The only thing that urgently needs to be addressed with the lab is the fact that you must do it 4 times a character.

Make it so if I skip normal and cruel labs, but complete merci lab, I get all the points up to that lab.

No need to make me go in an area 50 levels lower than mine, especially if I've already done it in a higher level version.

I guess you haven't seen the recent Q&A session with Chris and ZiggyD :
- there will be 10 acts, no more normal-cruel-merc, and many more different trials spread across those 10 acts.
- It is very likely that the players needs to return to Sarn twice to complete the lab, => 3 labs + uber after then
- The normal lab might get shortened, if I would get I would say that the second one might too. Golden doors might disappear from those 2, but it's too early to tell.

shortening the normal lab (and cruel if anyone wants to do it) could only include removing 'interim' rooms. removing entire Izaro phase seems unlikely

golden doors and 'long' dead ends could go away too

or you can show entire lab map in normal, 2 rooms ahead in cruel - to make the run easier without actually removing the 'your character has to be this good before proceeding' aspect

why GGG insists on the laby, when like 80% of the players really dont like it? I really can't understad this...

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sidtherat wrote:

shortening the normal lab (and cruel if anyone wants to do it) could only include removing 'interim' rooms. removing entire Izaro phase seems unlikely

golden doors and 'long' dead ends could go away too

or you can show entire lab map in normal, 2 rooms ahead in cruel - to make the run easier without actually removing the 'your character has to be this good before proceeding' aspect

I would not be surprised to see only 2 Izaro in the normal lab to be honest.

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The_Reporter wrote:

In it's current state, the game will be junked by the console audience. Only a tiny vocal minority actually enjoy being in that place once, never mind multiple times.

I'm fairly optimistic about that one, console games have a greater tendency to mix and match genres than PC games. Minigames are also somewhat of a console thing, you'd get fishing, racing, slot machines, card games and whatnot in perfectly respectable RPGs with serious plotlines and atmosphere. PoE should fit right in, I mean, we have fishing too, just need to find how to do it first.

Also, it's different for us who are here for a long time, but exclusive console players never knew PoE without the lab, that's a big factor too.