Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas] - Forum

Even After 393 pages of replies I want to say this - Lab is not for all, it is optional. Go away with your democracy to general game balance where the real POE problems are. If you want ascendancy points you need ascend. Does not this sounds logical to you? - if your build is so bad that it can not beat normal and cruel Izaro, then I really doubt that ascendancy points will help you. Otherways - buy lab carry or do it with your friend.	Posted by filtre#4812 on Jan 25, 2017, 6:03:45 PM Quote this Post
filter, do you realize that video games are fiction and therefore have arbitrary rules as to how they work. It is as logical to get the points as a reward from completing the Lab, than it would be as help someone gives you after the trials so you are prepared to go for the challenge, or as a price after killing Maly because the Lab was just an illusion exile, or as the effect of an item that gives you an asc point until a certain max (and the item has a random drop rate of course). Home, home again.	Posted by qwqwqw333_final#1864 on Jan 25, 2017, 6:30:36 PM Quote this Post
" qwqwqw333_final wrote: filter, do you realize that video games are fiction and therefore have arbitrary rules as to how they work. It is as logical to get the points as a reward from completing the Lab, than it would be as help someone gives you after the trials so you are prepared to go for the challenge, or as a price after killing Maly because the Lab was just an illusion exile, or as the effect of an item that gives you an asc point until a certain max (and the item has a random drop rate of course). Home, home again. Which is why I suggested the uber typing test to replace the Lab since by your rules its just as good. Plus at the end you will be able to type 900 words a minute or you will not get the points or enchants.	Posted by Zalhan2#1986 on Jan 25, 2017, 6:37:35 PM Quote this Post
" filtre wrote: Even After 393 pages of replies I want to say this - Lab is not for all, it is optional. Go away with your democracy to general game balance where the real POE problems are. If you want ascendancy points you need ascend. Does not this sounds logical to you? - if your build is so bad that it can not beat normal and cruel Izaro, then I really doubt that ascendancy points will help you. Otherways - buy lab carry or do it with your friend. I agree. If every game was for everyone we would all be playing Sacrid 3. Wait no one plays that game. Also Lab is optional I agree you can do it or find a new game. You disagree but the DEVS (unless you think the people you adore are wrong) said this indirectly. Also global warming is real too.	Posted by Zalhan2#1986 on Jan 25, 2017, 6:41:18 PM Quote this Post
" " Completed 24 Challengesfiltre wrote: Even After 393 pages of replies I want to say this - Lab is not for all, it is optional. Go away with your democracy to general game balance where the real POE problems are. If you want ascendancy points you need ascend. Does not this sounds logical to you? - if your build is so bad that it can not beat normal and cruel Izaro, then I really doubt that ascendancy points will help you. Otherways - buy lab carry or do it with your friend. I agree. If every game was for everyone we would all be playing Sacrid 3. Wait no one plays that game. Also Lab is optional I agree you can do it or find a new game. You disagree but the DEVS (unless you think the people you adore are wrong) said this indirectly. Also global warming is real too. You guys are pretty good at telling people to quit the game and stuff, as you seem to think the developper want. But I'm pretty sure the developper are all the way on the opposite lol. They want as much players as possible, as proven by the xbox one launch. And as you say, after 393 pages, and multiple support interventions, you can say something is not right and surely not widely accepted about this topic lol. Put the lab optional for real and all this would go away easy. Last edited by Slouper#5386 on Jan 25, 2017, 8:23:33 PM	Posted by Slouper#5386 on Jan 25, 2017, 8:15:00 PM Quote this Post
It's sad to see how many trolls came to this thread lately, there was a time when we discussed between lab "haters", "lovers" and players who do it just for the points, but don't enjoy it, in a pretty decent state of harmony. One of the few discoveries of that journey was that we all agreed in more aspects than one would imagine. I guess that's just a bug in the matrix in this forums.	Posted by qwqwqw333_final#1864 on Jan 25, 2017, 8:33:10 PM Quote this Post
" qwqwqw333_final wrote: It's sad to see how many trolls came to this thread lately, there was a time when we discussed between lab "haters", "lovers" and players who do it just for the points, but don't enjoy it, in a pretty decent state of harmony. One of the few discoveries of that journey was that we all agreed in more aspects than one would imagine. I guess that's just a bug in the matrix in this forums. Nah it's simple. Lab haters want ascendancy points to be acquired elsewhere as if doing the lab 4 times on a character was the end of the world and warranted such a huge change to lore and game design, effectively ignoring all the people who DO like the way the lab is and its rewards. Then you get the hardcore lab haters who basically want it gone entirely. Lab lovers are like "dude wtf chill, you only have to do it 4 times and you can pay for a carry if your character is that bad." Lab haters are upset that not everybody thinks the way they do and choose to complain for 400 pages instead of voicing their concerns once with their arguments (like a grown man would do) and letting GGG handle the feedback. Crit Shockwave Totem 650k +: #1657327 / Crit VMS (1 mil DPS): #1511368 / Crit self-cast spark: #1565708 1.3 crit firestorm: #1280086 / 1.3 crit Ice Nova: #1219809 / Flame Nova (sire of shards incinerate): #1359847	Posted by Simplesim45#4104 on Jan 25, 2017, 9:38:03 PM Quote this Post
" Simplesim45 wrote: " qwqwqw333_final wrote: It's sad to see how many trolls came to this thread lately, there was a time when we discussed between lab "haters", "lovers" and players who do it just for the points, but don't enjoy it, in a pretty decent state of harmony. One of the few discoveries of that journey was that we all agreed in more aspects than one would imagine. I guess that's just a bug in the matrix in this forums. Nah it's simple. Lab haters want ascendancy points to be acquired elsewhere as if doing the lab 4 times on a character was the end of the world and warranted such a huge change to lore and game design, effectively ignoring all the people who DO like the way the lab is and its rewards. Then you get the hardcore lab haters who basically want it gone entirely. Lab lovers are like "dude wtf chill, you only have to do it 4 times and you can pay for a carry if your character is that bad." Lab haters are upset that not everybody thinks the way they do and choose to complain for 400 pages instead of voicing their concerns once with their arguments (like a grown man would do) and letting GGG handle the feedback. Have you voiced your concerns in these threads more than once? Yes? Suppose you're not a grown man either.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017, 9:41:04 PM
" The_Reporter wrote: " Simplesim45 wrote: " qwqwqw333_final wrote: It's sad to see how many trolls came to this thread lately, there was a time when we discussed between lab "haters", "lovers" and players who do it just for the points, but don't enjoy it, in a pretty decent state of harmony. One of the few discoveries of that journey was that we all agreed in more aspects than one would imagine. I guess that's just a bug in the matrix in this forums. Nah it's simple. Lab haters want ascendancy points to be acquired elsewhere as if doing the lab 4 times on a character was the end of the world and warranted such a huge change to lore and game design, effectively ignoring all the people who DO like the way the lab is and its rewards. Then you get the hardcore lab haters who basically want it gone entirely. Lab lovers are like "dude wtf chill, you only have to do it 4 times and you can pay for a carry if your character is that bad." Lab haters are upset that not everybody thinks the way they do and choose to complain for 400 pages instead of voicing their concerns once with their arguments (like a grown man would do) and letting GGG handle the feedback. Have you voiced your concerns in these threads more than once? Yes? Suppose you're not a grown man either. I have no concerns when it comes to lab. Whenever I do have one tho, I e-mail GGG and let them know what I think in a calm and collected manner without making up bullshit stats to back up my claims (IE.: OMG GGG EVERYONE HATES LAB, PLS REMOVE OR I QUIT!). They then proceed to forward my feedback to the appropriate team and thank me for my continued support and we all move on. How do I know if my feedback is actually sent to a team? I work as a lead QA in a triple A company and it's procedural. Teams receive relevant player feedback continuously. Crit Shockwave Totem 650k +: #1657327 / Crit VMS (1 mil DPS): #1511368 / Crit self-cast spark: #1565708 1.3 crit firestorm: #1280086 / 1.3 crit Ice Nova: #1219809 / Flame Nova (sire of shards incinerate): #1359847 Last edited by Simplesim45#4104 on Jan 25, 2017, 10:00:11 PM	Posted by Simplesim45#4104 on Jan 25, 2017, 9:58:11 PM Quote this Post
Good for you. This is the way we do it here. If you don't like it, don't open the thread.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017, 10:03:57 PM