SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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The_Reporter wrote:

I'd spend time in it if it were at all enjoyable. But it's not. It's boring, vomit inducing, glitchy, annoying, non-challenging and poorly presented.

The silly deceitful Internet Trolls keep ignoring the fact that a median means the middle time. The people higher than the median are people that more likely run labyrinth once per difficulty just for the ascendancy points. That is the time frame that is the proper context for the labyrinth runs under discussion. The faster times than the median are in general not the context of people that is being generally discussed in this thread that don't really enjoy labyrinth and don't run it more than is required. Internet Trolls should best be ignored, IMHO.

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Turtledove wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

I'd spend time in it if it were at all enjoyable. But it's not. It's boring, vomit inducing, glitchy, annoying, non-challenging and poorly presented.

The silly deceitful Internet Trolls keep ignoring the fact that a median means the middle time. The people higher than the median are people that more likely run labyrinth once per difficulty just for the ascendancy points. That is the time frame that is the proper context for the labyrinth runs under discussion. The faster times than the median are in general not the context of people that is being generally discussed in this thread that don't really enjoy labyrinth and don't run it more than is required. Internet Trolls should best be ignored, IMHO.

The people that take longer don't care to make the time less or care for improvement at all.

But no no its standard to take 45 + min to do it because thats what Chris said, before the public had access to it at all.


If anyone is trolling its the person that doesnt play the game again....the one that praises all the people that just say anything negative about the lab. What a pathetic person would it take for them to spend hundreds of hours to complain about something, rather then the 15 min or less per run to actually just do the content. Takes a "special" kinda person.

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Turtledove wrote:

The silly deceitful Internet Trolls

Ah, I see we're back to the name calling part of the discussion.

How about stop using a guestimate made by Chris as an argument, he clearly underestimated the players.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

The silly deceitful Internet Trolls

Ah, I see we're back to the name calling part of the discussion.

How about stop using a guestimate made by Chris as an argument, he clearly underestimated the players.

Naw brah I mean why look at the facts, instead lets use the oldest mention or benchmark of time possible.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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sidtherat wrote:

i know that it is wrong and bad karma but it makes me somewhat happy to see some people literally wasting weeks of their own life fighting for something noone else cares about

go listen interview with jonathan - lab is here to stay. it is different on purpose. an alternative to mindless click-click. you do it - you get candy. you do not like it? tough luck

and do not tell me about game loosing players - you are still here (and several guys with their alts as they are too proud to admit their 'quiting' was just drama)

Only those of tiny intellect can find joy in another person's displeasure.

I think quite a few psychopaths would disagree, as well as those who have studied psychology for any amount of time.

Maybe I'm just giving trolls to much credit with this, but it had to be said. :P

Anyone read about Valve's new situation?

Not the skins one, the new one.

It's like you can't just make any offer public and hide behind a click on a TOS page.

It's like you can't take thousands of dollars of people and then do wrv you want, design uniques anyone?

Imagine what could you be able to do if you had no travel expenses in the EU or the US.

Nothing like the idea of a fine or the close doors of a big market to make a not that big of a company feel the pain in the balls.

Hell, the US erased the boom of poker with a few lines of legislation.

First world customer right protection and first world market regulation.

Just planting seeds.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

The silly deceitful Internet Trolls

Ah, I see we're back to the name calling part of the discussion.

How about stop using a guestimate made by Chris as an argument, he clearly underestimated the players.

The point of Chris's statement is that 5 minutes, 10 minutes, or even 15 minutes is not the normal expected times through the labyrinth. The more important fact that seems totally ignored by the Internet Trolls is the median times on the normal difficulty ladder. There are many with times that are much longer than their frequently stated lies, a majority to a vast majority.

Look at the false statement.

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The lab should take the average person 15 min or less to complete.

This is obviously false based on all the evidence. Yet the troll keeps repeating this same silly lie over and over. Of course the trolls used to say 5 or 10 minutes until the labyrinth ladders came out and the falsehood was even too blatantly obvious for them stomach.

Calling them lying Internet Trolls is not meant as an insult to them. It is meant as a warning to others like Outtahand who he was telling this lie to.

So what are the average times of a lab runs on normal / cruel / merc / uber? Compile some data, make some nice graphs and maybe this thread wont be so boring.

(Before the expansion was released, Chris said that completing the lab will take "around 45 mins", which is an extremely conservative estimate)