SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]
" This is a very silly argument that you've tried to use previously. This is not a democracy. It is completely ridiculous to imply that GGG will not fix something if only a minority of the people hate it. Not only is it ridiculous, it is off topic and irrelevant to the topic at hand. The topic at hand is that many people find the labyrinth (not Izaro but the traps) boring, irritating, tedious, and not fun. We are providing that feedback to GGG. The process that GGG goes through as to how they consider feedback and suggestions that they receive in this forum is not really on topic. Many people, not an insignificant minority, probably a majority but it doesn't matter whether it is a majority or minority because it is not a democracy. The discussion about this detail is probably more on topic in the thread, Over 270 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 640 posters in support Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" You can try to distract as much you want, so I repeat my question as often as you want. Jgizle wrote " " He specifically said people who dislike lab are a minority" . He pointed to Minute 39:30 of the interview as a Fact to that Argument. I made a logical conclusion as why this is wrong and not a Fact. Can you pls explain to me why and how your comment can provide anything to this in a logical way ? Thank you. Last edited by Shredzilly#5184 on Nov 10, 2016, 6:00:31 AM
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Last edited by Shredzilly#5184 on Nov 10, 2016, 6:00:03 AM
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" No its not, at all. We could see two things that motivates GGG : - make the content that they think is better to the game, in other words make the game that they think is best - try to appeal to people. PoEs target is already pretty niche, would GGG try to please a minority that dislike, and goes against something that they like and are proud of ? C'mon be realistic for a second please .... SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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" You are confusing two things. The PoE niche market and a significant many people in that niche market playing PoE are two different things. PoE players are GGG's most important target. In order to be successful GGG must remember that it is easier to keep players than to find new players. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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So in order to keep your player base, follow what a small minority says ?
Clever. Does not mean that they did not hear it of course, still ... SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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" Be that as it may, it is easier to lose players then to redo a massive amount of work in order to appeal to people that just complain about something they mostly do for the reward anyway. Its not like you have to spend a considerable amount of time doing the lab, you almost have to spend next to none of any given character's time in the lab. So content that is mostly one and done for people that dislike it is fine, because you do it for the reward, bitch about it the whole time, but get that sigh of relief when its done. Crying on the forums isn't going to achieve what you want, it hasn't so far and I seriously doubt it will in the future. Making massive list of anyone who agrees with you might be somewhat more useful, but players that post here could be even less then that message Chris or support directly to give feedback, not only that players that enjoy content or aren't so far negative on something typically won't go out of their way to show it either. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285
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Where on Earth do you Guys get the Information that GGG sees Lab Haters as a Minority ?
Clearly not out of the Youtube Interview with Chris you are posting all over this Thread. I finally watched it and you guys shot yourself in the knee with it as my prior postings are showing. A vocal minority at the time the Interview was held, but even then he stated and I will repeat what Chris said over and over : ..alot of the community don´t like the labyrinth.. and.. ..many are happy to go through it.. many people really hate it. Keywords are : alot and many. Last edited by Shredzilly#5184 on Nov 10, 2016, 10:27:50 AM
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" A lot does not describe a majority, assuming it does is just assuming, when he says A MINORITY it is just that, just like a minority of the players in this game will EVER visit these feedback forums. Do you think Chris and GGG would do nothing if the MAJORITY of people disliked the lab, like is it even logical to think that they would sit by as over 1\2 the population would sit there and complain about it? No If it was the majority of players hating the lab, where are the reddit threads about it, like the massive threads about masters, where are the threads about it, like the massive amount of trade threads on reddit. You can't be so naive to think that the majority of people DO NOT LIKE THE LAB, when basically every thread ever posted about hating the lab is downvoted on reddit. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF. Last edited by goetzjam#3084 on Nov 10, 2016, 10:35:15 AM
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" I never said that Lab Haters are a Majority, but you Guys keep saying Lab Haters are a Minority. As proof for that you keep posting the Youtube Interview. So again, keep alot out of the Arguments if it bothers you. Chris clearly said : ..many are happy to go through it.. many people really hate it. Does this mean Lab Haters are a Minority ? If not where do you get the Information that they see Lab Haters as a Minority? Last edited by Shredzilly#5184 on Nov 10, 2016, 10:50:52 AM
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