SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Fruz wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

And keep bumping this thread with nasty, condescending comments, sidtherat. I find the irony entertaining.

Honestly, GGG know about this thread, bumping it or not at this point I think will not change anything, especialy given the content of (at least) most posts.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Have you even seen them ? run them ?
I don't think so.

Trap patterns that you cannot see the end of, that gate the boss.
And not, maybe you have not tried the Atlas at all, but skipping a map => loosing on overal bonus, loosing on the chance to get the next map.

There will be more and more traps in the future, deal with it.
Not less, more.

I have played the Pier map and probably won't ever play it again because it is boring irritating and not fun to go through the trap game play part of that map. I also played a map a few times (I forget the map name.) that has traps in the final boss fight. To me that was similar to the final Izaro battle which I have no trouble with. As long as the focus is on kill monsters and get loot then I consider it fun ARPG game play. I consider Izaro to be one of the best battles in the game. If there are other maps in the category that you describe, then I doubt that I've played them but would appreciate you letting me know which maps those might be. (I played PoE for the first time today in a couple of weeks but would appreciate a warning if/when I run into those maps.)

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Fruz wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

Have you even seen them ? run them ?
I don't think so.

Trap patterns that you cannot see the end of, that gate the boss.
And not, maybe you have not tried the Atlas at all, but skipping a map => loosing on overal bonus, loosing on the chance to get the next map.

There will be more and more traps in the future, deal with it.
Not less, more.

I have played the Pier map and probably won't ever play it again because it is boring irritating and not fun to go through the trap game play part of that map. I also played a map a few times (I forget the map name.) that has traps in the final boss fight. To me that was similar to the final Izaro battle which I have no trouble with. As long as the focus is on kill monsters and get loot then I consider it fun ARPG game play. I consider Izaro to be one of the best battles in the game. If there are other maps in the category that you describe, then I doubt that I've played them but would appreciate you letting me know which maps those might be. (I played PoE for the first time today in a couple of weeks but would appreciate a warning if/when I run into those maps.)

This is the only map that I have seen like it so far, but having such a map definitely means that GGG was not planning to stop about traps ( I mean, such trap layouts ).
I did feel that it was a bit much to be honest, for this map.
I heard from others that there were traps in other maps ( I have not been mapping a lot yet, going through the Atlas in a fresh league in HC at my own pace and solo, so ... I would not be surprised that traps would be more for higher maps ).

If I found another one like it, I'll send you a message.

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morbo wrote:

IMO, GGG should refrain from putting trap gauntlets into maps, but an occasional trap obstacle in the boss room is very welcome and spices up the fight.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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morbo wrote:

IMO, GGG should refrain from putting trap gauntlets into maps, but an occasional trap obstacle in the boss room is very welcome and spices up the fight.

Agree

You guys just want everything on a silver platter? Work through the frogger stuff and LIKE IT. Guys like you two will turn PoE into a casual fest.

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Jgizle wrote:

In the end it is the non vocal majority that decides if change is needed.

With less than 2k people of the entire player base saying they dislike lab, change is not comming any time soon.

If I disliked lab so much and wanted it to change, id voice my opinion on the forum and hope it changes. If I think its fine though id either never go to the forums, or go to the forums and voice my opinion on why it needs to stay the way it is.

Just in the steam client there are over 37k players. So realistically the players who dislike lab are extremely niche. Now if we are to assume the amount of players playing at once is similar or better than it was in 2014 (70k players at same time at peak hours according to chris wilson) then we get a perspective of how miniscule lab haters are who have voiced their opinion. Less than 3% of the entire currently active player base. And thats the best case scenario if we said 2000 different people dislike lab.

Source : http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.838339-Path-of-Exile-Accumulated-3-7-Million-Player-Accounts-in-2013