SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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morbo wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

Then simply try to asnwer this How any addition/change/rework in the ascencion method - while keeping it as an option also in the labyrinth - will have any negative effect in anyone's gameplay/personal experience?

"Most people hate the Lab and buy Lab carry, therefore nothing would change if Ascension would be made more trivial".

This is false, it would change for me and other people like me, who prefer to play their own game, not to pay others to play for them. The Lab is not easy as some pretend it to be - that's why people are paying a carry - because they want cheesy/easy stuff and instant solutions.

It would also change for people who are selling lab carries...

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Then simply try to asnwer this How any addition/change/rework in the ascencion method - while keeping it as an option also in the labyrinth - will have any negative effect in anyone's gameplay/personal experience?
You will convince yourself when you truthfully answer the above question.

Again I hardly see people arguing that it would be bad to have another place provide access to ascendancies. But here is the thing. I assume expansions up to 3.0 were already planned out, so they had no room for another option to optain ascendancies. So we are looking at 3.1 here or maybe they get a chance to put it in 3.0 but since this might include additional parts of Act IV or a new Act V I kinda doubt it.

A good option would be to use the Arena in Theopolis, Theopolis is there, we know that it has an Arena so why not fight there. From pure difficulty points fighting for Ascendancies in an arena is likely harder than doing the lab, but it is pure fighting and no traps.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Do we still get 6 points if we run Merciless lab or was this only applicable to characters made before 2.2?

You'll have to run each difficulty. That was a one time thing for old chars.

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Do we still get 6 points if we run Merciless lab or was this only applicable to characters made before 2.2?

You'll have to run each difficulty. That was a one time thing for old chars.

Lame. Why do a half arsed 'solution' if there was no inherent problem to begin with except with a "tiny vocal minority". Sounds like an admission that it's not such a minority after all.

Um it was for the people with a ton of characters on standard. Ascending a character while leveling it up isn't a big deal, but having to go back and ascend 20-30 old characters is.

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

OtherS even compared it to PRINCE OF PERSIA!

Yeah, because some video game reporter said it reminds him of another game that automagically transforms PoE laby into something else.

Yes, labyrinth is something else for many people. Just because you don't believe it, it does not mean that it is not true. It only means that it is not true for you and you don't see that other people can have different opinions/perceptions.

It's not a matter of belief.

Labyrinth is a part of Path of Exile, no more, no less, period.

Now it reminds you of another game, fine.
The point here was just that after somebody made a comparison, many just jumped on it to use it to complain.

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Telzen wrote:

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

You'll have to run each difficulty. That was a one time thing for old chars.

Lame. Why do a half arsed 'solution' if there was no inherent problem to begin with except with a "tiny vocal minority". Sounds like an admission that it's not such a minority after all.

Um it was for the people with a ton of characters on standard. Ascending a character while leveling it up isn't a big deal, but having to go back and ascend 20-30 old characters is.

Also keep in mind, that was before the trials were league-wide. Imagine wanting to ascend your 20-30+ old chars and having to run 18 trials + laby (x3) for each. :)

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Turtledove wrote:

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Shovelcut wrote:

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Regulator wrote:

OtherS even compared it to PRINCE OF PERSIA!

Yeah, because some video game reporter said it reminds him of another game that automagically transforms PoE laby into something else.

Yes, labyrinth is something else for many people. Just because you don't believe it, it does not mean that it is not true. It only means that it is not true for you and you don't see that other people can have different opinions/perceptions.

It's not that I don't see that other people can have differing opinions/perceptions. It's that when you and your ilk resort to spamming and shit posting on a large scale, comparing the laby to eating shit, comparing the laby to ISIS or just flat out putting down those who do happen to enjoy it...I can't empathize with you. So what you find to be true I couldn't give 2 shits about.

A little over 7 months and still no change yet...

Woohoo closing in to 300 pages of hate. Keep it going guys, never calm your tities.
This thread has these inextinquishable flames from Harry potter. Don't recall the name, they were black though, like the shadenfreude oozing out from recent posts.

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Fruz wrote:

It's not a matter of belief.

Labyrinth is a part of Path of Exile, no more, no less, period.

Now it reminds you of another game, fine.
The point here was just that after somebody made a comparison, many just jumped on it to use it to complain.

You expressed the cause and effect in reverse. The cause is Labyrinth which plays with a different play style a different game. This has been observed by many. We are not using that as a complaint. It is the complaint that was observed by many but there also seem to be many that cannot accept that fact. Labyrinth game play is like a different game. It's not like the rest of PoE. Many don't enjoy that different game play in PoE. That is the complaint. We don't say that because a reviewer also expressed it.