SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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ForciblyBaptized wrote:

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Giving one's 2 cents of opinion daily in this thread to keep it an active conversation is..

self-bumping. and that is frowned upon pretty much everywhere and is considered a bad manner. if you have to resort to this 'tactic' it means that the topic is dead anyway

In short, what do You think is the reason, there is a "feedback and suggestions" on PoE homepage? If this still is people's opinion, should everyone just be quiet anyways? Or make new thread (if the problem is number of posts, this helps) for this or what..?[/quote]

There is a difference in giving your opinion when things change and constantly spamming the topic without adding anything additional. I could go thru this thread (i wont) and find 1 liner low effort comments from people that have posted multiple times. GGG does not care how much the "small volume" of people that post on the topic post, it isn't larger because of it and it won't sway them if you as a person post more and more about it.

What gets me is actual feedback, you know regarding balance, items, decisions, ect of the entire rest of the game has less chance being contributed to by people, because these lab haters go out of their way to bump threads. The scion for example, not changed one bit for the next patch, I believe my thread is already on the second page and long forgotten because someone decided to bump this thread today, when it was on the second page.

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The_Reporter wrote:

While you're adding up all of the low effort posts from others, don't forget to tally yours as well.

Thanks for proving my point exactly by adding a 1 line post that adds nothing to the discussion.


Well, you all have fun either playing the lab for the next 3 months or not, just a reminder, it isn't changing.

3.0 will be the true test of lab changes. If they do not do anything by then then I expect many people to move on from the game and the forums.

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FixLabPLSGGG wrote:

3.0 will be the true test of lab changes. If they do not do anything by then then I expect many people to move on from the game and the forums.

Yes, I agree about 3.0, though it's a long way off. Even if GGG had wanted to do something about the lab/ACs, it wouldn't be a quick and easy change (like, say, adding 6% more attack damage to Dominating Blow) and with prophecy and AoW on the front burners there's been no opportunity for them to do it.

It seems likely that AoW is going to attract a lot of new and returning players, and how things go from there may well influence GGG's future plans a lot (especially since they aren't omniscient, infallible, or unbiased when it comes to the lab). If they attract enough new players and retain enough old players, they probably won't be too bothered if they have lost or lose a bunch of players because of the lab (as well as for other reasons).

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The_Reporter wrote:

And until then, just play the non lab related part for free. No prob :)

Which is what I plan to do.

Man I just love the labyrinth, one of the best ideas since Path of Exile launch.

I don't even know how it is so hard to people to complete and receive their ascendancy points. Heck, a friend of mine just started playing for the first time this game a week ago and she has already received 4 points and trying now Merciless labyrinth. And she loves it.

It is so cool, so lore friendly and replayable, I don't know why are so many detractors of it.

I must be blind or something.

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FixLabPLSGGG wrote:

3.0 will be the true test of lab changes. If they do not do anything by then then I expect many people to move on from the game and the forums.

3.0? So, what... around 2020 maybe?

That's a lot of time to stop worrying and learn how to love the Lab ;-)

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MekaDragon wrote:

Man I just love the labyrinth, one of the best ideas since Path of Exile launch.

I don't even know how it is so hard to people to complete and receive their ascendancy points. Heck, a friend of mine just started playing for the first time this game a week ago and she has already received 4 points and trying now Merciless labyrinth. And she loves it.

It is so cool, so lore friendly and replayable, I don't know why are so many detractors of it.

I must be blind or something.

It really isn't the difficulty that is the problem. My perspective is that it is the different game play involved when there are screens full of traps. At that point the game play changes from the fun regular PoE game play to boring, irritating, trap game play, that is reminiscent of arcade style Frogger, Prince of Persia or Mario game play.