[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

In the quest for more damage I am trying out bladefall instead of life leech in chest setup, getting leech from Doryani's Invitation, self casting Warlords Mark in boss fights and using Atziri's promise when engaging big packs/bosses. I also recrafted my dagger with 0,2% leech from cold damage, as it will add up a little to the leech we get from Herald of Ice and Hatred.
Just did a test agains the Minotaur, he wen down considerably faster and I didn't die.
The idea is to have so much deeps that fights will be over before flasks are empty, a surgeons basalt flask also helps alot in boss fights, gettin my evasion above 50% and having more or less 100% uptime.
The only downside is loosing es from the belt slot, got a little over 11k es now.
Attacking feels alot more punchy with 3 spells attached to CoC, I just plow through everything in no time. As the damage gets higher, the leech also gets higher. This is min maxing in stanard league btw.
Stats w current setup:

11,3k ES
Blade Vortex w 4 blades: 21k avg.dmg with 6 power and 4 frenzy charges)
EK: 61k
Bladefall: 45k

Stats with Voidbringer gloves +1 gems:
12,3kES
BV: 17k
BF:39k
EK: 50k


Current Skilltree:

yo im tryna pump out more es bc i got stuck with a tabula

was hoping i could get some opinions on what my other bottlenecks are
im at barely over 3k es 1.7k life

personally id rather grind maps looking for better gear than trade for it so (i get enjoyment out of that portion of the game)

Would really use Voidbringers if you wantto stick to a Tabula for longer.

You also really should get a cheap Vagan Dagger, it like the base of this build.

The Helmet is also really not optimal because the ES isn´t all that high and your Bladevortex gets supported by a Conc Effect, making it a lot smaller.

The Belt lookslike you could get something with more Resists pretty easy to get more room for high ES /Low Resist stuff in other Slots.

Wouldn't voidheart ring be a good idea? Cbf to read through 100 pages of text, read last few and didnt see anything about it. Would think with the massive phys damage being applied so quickly that it would at least warrant testing. I am going to test it out...if there is an explanation point me to the right page. Thanks.

Voidheart works for Melee, not Spells. Our Melee attacks don´t deal damage at all.

Having a great time with your build currently lvl 82 and did up to tier 14 maps with ease.


Trying to calculate best dagger base after 2.4 changes.

My assumptions are:
0.5 ICD means we should be attacking twice per second assuming high crit chance.
Since two times is not possible, we should be attacking four times.
Since we want the second attack after a crit to be after the 0.5 ICD timer we should be attacking slightly slower that 4 APS.

3.99 APS should be the best as far as I understand.

Using my current dagger, I reach 4.1 APS.

Would a slow base be better? can be adjusted to close to 3.99 APS with two 4% nodes.

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

Voidheart works for Melee, not Spells. Our Melee attacks don´t deal damage at all.

Yea, keep forgetting that. Thanks. What about poison gem then? That might work well.

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pipser wrote:

Trying to calculate best dagger base after 2.4 changes.

My assumptions are:
0.5 ICD means we should be attacking twice per second assuming high crit chance.
Since two times is not possible, we should be attacking four times.
Since we want the second attack after a crit to be after the 0.5 ICD timer we should be attacking slightly slower that 4 APS.

The 0,5 Second CD is per Spell, we can cast 4 times per second. (2x Bladefall + 2x EK)

With 95% Crit Chance a APS a bit over 4 should be ok.

Can´t tell you that much more i am not big into mathing out such things.

@nicrnicr17

Yes if you find a 7 Link Chest you can try that.

There are also some Pathfinder Versions posted around this Thread to get Poison during Flask from the Ascendancy.

This Version will be alot more expensive because you don´t get the ES/EV Bonus from Trickster Sacendancy and need 2x -8 Elreon Rings + Mana on Hit Jewels to sustain the Cyclone.

@Zwei

I was actually going off of Dkodr's testing at the top of page 110 where he place blade vortex instead of leech and got leech off belt and weapon. While I like that idea it made me think that you can do the same thing but put poison in there. Not talking about switching ascendancies because I think the Trickster is the most fluid one for the job, just that we might be able to optimize it differently. It might end up that it doesn't work out because lack of dps in which case I would just put in blade vortex like Dkodr. That is probably the way to go but I am kind of a poison whore lol.

Hmm haven't tested poison to be honest, gonna do that. If it gives more damage in boss fights
I guess it's worth it, must be the only reason to use it as trash mobs die fast enough anyway.
I am also now using Frost Bomb linked with CWDT-Warlords Mark in my shield, it reduces enemies cold res by 20% and thus gives more damage and leech from Hatreds cold damage. I also switched to using Vinktars
because it gives inzane damage vs bosses. Lost movespeed from flasks though as I need shock immunity :(
Also Culling Strike in the helmet with CWDT, Ice Golem, Tempest Shield is great in the Guardian fights, autoculls them every time.

Current setup: