Blade vortex is BROKEN *video pve added (boss molestation)*

It's OP at max stacks. The downside is reaching and maintaining max (or sufficient) stacks. That's where you lose time.

Damn, if CWDT and linked skills didn't have a 250ms cooldown I'd have the most amusing reflect map build for this. But even with multiple cwdt links at different levels, the cooldown caps it at ~35 blades.

CoC cooldown is 50ms. Maybe that's the way to go for easy 50.

Blade Vortex is OP if you don't need to move much.
It isn't all that good while levelling. Whoever that tries to level with this skill will know this. The ones that don't know this are the ones who just test it against while not moving, which is when it is OP.

They can limit the blade count to 10 and the skill should be fine.

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Starxsword wrote:

Blade Vortex is OP if you don't need to move much.
It isn't all that good while levelling. Whoever that tries to level with this skill will know this. The ones that don't know this are the ones who just test it against while not moving, which is when it is OP.

They can limit the blade count to 10 and the skill should be fine.

Then it would become more awful then fucking incinerate.

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lolozori wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

What do you mean I made a mistake? My tooltip DPS is 13.5K with level 14 gem will be over 25K when gem is 20.

I dont think it OP. SRS is more powerful. Dischargers are more powerful and many other spells I used.

Was answering to cgexile, not you, and yes this skill is op.

While other skills could have higher tooltype they lock you in place. Here you can run around with it, possibly cast others spells on top of it using cwdt and warp in and out of enemy range.

SRS and discharge are super op but they are kind of late game skills in particular SRS wich need a +3 staff.
This can already cruise on normal without much items or even link.

It's a great boss killer but relatively slow mapper since you're ramping up and stop and go. AOE is quite small too compared to other center on caster spells - Ice Nova, Shock Nova, Ice crash, Discharge, etc. I don't play PvP but so far skill seems balanced to me and i'm getting 46 blades @ 13.5K each w/ 7 PC. But most of time in real game play I'm hovering around 20 blades - so about 270K DPS.

Ice nova and Shock nova I can do 200K with more AOE
Discharge over 800K with more AOE.

You only get to see the massive 46 blades on boss when you have warlords to suck mana from and ramp fully.

Yea but coc discharge requires 500 ex investment to reach 800k dps...

If GGG decides to 'adjust' the gem then I would propose the following:
Remove the spell tag, although it still benefits from spell damage nodes. This to stop people using it with CoC builds.
Half the DPS.
Remove the max. 50 blades ceiliing.

Result: less OP at the beginning. Still very rewarding for the people that really invest into the skill with cast speed and duration nodes.

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Kaw wrote:

If GGG decides to 'adjust' the gem then I would propose the following:
Remove the spell tag, although it still benefits from spell damage nodes. This to stop people using it with CoC builds.
Half the DPS.
Remove the max. 50 blades ceiliing.

Result: less OP at the beginning. Still very rewarding for the people that really invest into the skill with cast speed and duration nodes.

Its garbage with CoC... We are talking about self cast BV. You get max 14 stacks with fast dagger on CoC. With 100% increased duration.

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eragon1111 wrote:

Its garbage with CoC... We are talking about self cast BV. You get max 14 stacks with fast dagger on CoC. With 100% increased duration.

How is that possible? CoC is 10 casts per second easy and then you would have at least 25-30 with normal duration and 50 easy with extra duration.

Yeah it crap with CoC. get like 20 blade out max not to mention supports/skill needed to CoC will make it like 1/2 DPS per blade because you have to waste into cyclone and CoC gem instead of say echo and conc.

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Kaw wrote:

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eragon1111 wrote:

Its garbage with CoC... We are talking about self cast BV. You get max 14 stacks with fast dagger on CoC. With 100% increased duration.

How is that possible? CoC is 10 casts per second easy and then you would have at least 25-30 with normal duration and 50 easy with extra duration.

How exactly are you getting 10 blades a second. Most CoC run IAS of 2. And if you crit 100% thats two blades a second.

I already tested it with can't miss vegan dagger and 92% Crit chance and was getting like 9 -14 blades.