Donald Trump

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

In Trump's case, it's probably only an appearance. But that's been the Republican strategy for years - lure in the libertarian vote were promised of smaller government and laugh all the way to the bank.

Both candidates are horrible. But if my choices are "mentally unhinged narcissist who might start a world war" or "continued status quo of the rich fucking this country and eroding liberty," then unfortunately the former is the better gamble. Precisely because he might, just maybe, do something dangerously stupid. More likely not, of course; I'm not expecting much.

In other words, the way I see it is: we are choosing who is going to fuck us. The government isn't your friend, it's the friend of special interests, the friend of the corrupt owners; it's the enemy of liberty, the enemy of your life and goals and dreams. Do you want the sane enemy, or the crazy enemy? Trump is the lesser evil - not in the sense normally used, but in the sense of more likely to fuck up.

Well, I think, anyway. I guess there's an argument H is worse, therefore better.

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Antnee wrote:

There was no vote manipulation there- Trump is implying that this will happen in the general. There was no cheating during the conventions- Trump says that is the only way he loses Pennsylvania.

THAT is the issue here. He's convincing a large swath of the electorate that their vote will not be counted, and the election itself is a farce. Please tell me you understand how goddamn reckless that is!

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Einkil wrote:

I don't get it, people claim they hate the current system yet still vote for it even though there's a write-in option. If you don't like current party politics then vote for an outsider. I've heard dozens of people say that it won't matter, and that it would be a wasted vote. It wont win the election, but if a non-party candidate were even to snag 3% it'd at least send a message.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Or you could just not vote; that creates a statistic as well.

Just to be clear, I'm not voting. If I was literally forced to vote, I'd vote Trump. But I won't be forced.

I might write in go fuck yourselves. Assuming it's without legal repercussion.

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Antnee wrote:

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Einkil wrote:

I don't get it, people claim they hate the current system yet still vote for it even though there's a write-in option. If you don't like current party politics then vote for an outsider. I've heard dozens of people say that it won't matter, and that it would be a wasted vote. It wont win the election, but if a non-party candidate were even to snag 3% it'd at least send a message.

Mainer here. Let's talk about "Protest voting".

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Antnee wrote:

It's a very real case of people 'voting their conscience' and getting fucked for it. Luckily for us, we have a ballot measure to fix this problem.