Anti-Melee Challenge Leagues and melee discrimination

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majesw wrote:

The issue I have with melee is that cyclone is currently much stronger than everything else.

It's not much stronger, just a lot more fun to play. And has an integrated defensive mechanic - moving through mobs + stun immunity.

Nerfing Cyclone in any way wont make other melee skills any better. GGG should rather look at why other melee skills are mostly un-fun to play.

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morbo wrote:

1.) it's not "anti-melee", but pro-ranged / caster

2.) it has nothing to do with challenge leagues, because all that stuff is being introduced into the core game too

Better explained about mechanic and stuff written here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1475969

And here:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1472354

Poe more and more anti-melee after each expansion and each patch, monsters buffed and buffed, Boss and new monsters do INSANE damage and because of game mechanic and how melee works it harder and harder to survive by melee.

So it is clearly anti-melee.

What about that curse aura that will benefit melee chars?

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AntPi1e_ wrote:

What about that curse aura that will benefit melee chars?

I dont know if OP is high or what, melee is fucking great right now thanks to fortify.

The curse aura gem is going to make melee a walk in the park, people are going to just run Hatred/Determination/Grace with dual curse Enfeeble and Temporal Chains, rolling over curse immune maps.

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Deadpeng wrote:

What is the point of an anti melee league when this game itself is already anti melee?

It's called consideration for the few masochists still playing melee.

Targeted niche expansion. Really all the chaos stuff is just fluff, its really about giving those hardcore melee fanatics a better gameplay experience.

Peace,

-Boem-

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morbo wrote:

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majesw wrote:

The issue I have with melee is that cyclone is currently much stronger than everything else.

It's not much stronger, just a lot more fun to play. And has an integrated defensive mechanic - moving through mobs + stun immunity.

Nerfing Cyclone in any way wont make other melee skills any better. GGG should rather look at why other melee skills are mostly un-fun to play.

This 100%. It never fails every melee char I roll I wind up using cyclone at least as a secondary skill even if I promise myself while leveling I won't.

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viperesque wrote:

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Chris wrote:

This article does not contain the full patch notes for the 2.1.0 update.

That's...really all that can be said for now. Your point might be valid. We don't know yet. If I were you, I'd wait until we have complete information about the patch before getting this worried.

(By the by, we do at least know for a fact that Melee Splash buffs are coming.)

It have been always like this. We hope for the best but in fact if you want to change something you have to do it now.

Melee had its time with cyclone on hc and reave on softcore but the closer you get to endgame parties the weaker melee looks.

I mean, anything works with multicurse aurabot but why would i play as a support with a punchbag instead of a lets say vaal sparker?

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Deadpeng wrote:

What is the point of an anti melee league when this game itself is already anti melee?

Yes, but imagine that it will be MORE obviously anti melee and consciously GGG make impossible to play melee then now, much more.

New monsters also would have DOT damage and a lot Chaos damage, means melee gonna be screw up higher, more damage for monsters = less defense for melee that can't kite and dodge and refile flask every seconds (nonstop use of flask like crit bow do), etc.

I think the best way to make melee viable is to give us some nodes for:
+ increased weapon range (another +2 node for Marauder maybe)
+ life gain on hit (leech simply is not cutting it, even if you spec lots of points into it)
+ a way to mitigate corpse explosion

Corpse explosion is the reason I would not even consider melee for hardcore. How are you going to avoid it if you have to be on top of an enemy to kill it? (Reave or Spectral Throw are not melee, they are casters using their weapon for stats.)