What is your opinion about new globes?
" Hmm, I see what you mean, but the same history always included beautiful bodies and I think its unfair to compare them to the design intent of a warrior, I think closest would be andromeda, which as a character point, was that she was extremely beautiful, and was even chained in the tale due to unfortunate circumstances. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/1869_Edward_Poynter_-_Andromeda.jpg " Might also be my fault, as english not my main language either. and I've always wrote in a weird manner, maybe someone else can help here. " On general forum thread list, press the GGG icon to the left of thread title, to see all GGG staff answers in this thread. Oblivious Last edited by Disrupted#3096 on Jul 18, 2015, 11:12:34 AM
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" It is not just the body. It is also a lot about the pose, the context, the clothes (teasing clothes are a definite giveaway, unlike plain nudity that can work either way). " Did you mean that if GGG said that the UI change was made to make some players more comfortable, they would face an even bigger backlash from the “Gamergate-like” crowd, while the “SJW-like” crowd would ask them to change even more stuff? I honestly do not see what else could be changed at the moment. I feel more like GGG here is getting all the outrage of the “Gamergate-like” crowd without getting nearly as much popularity from the “SJW” crowd that they could get. Meh, it sucks to have such a divide between players. I often feel like the “Gamergate-like” crowd is acting more out of spite than anything else. " Thanks for the tip! Please remove the chained naked women from the UI, thanks GGG!
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" I think I now understand what you mean, might see it as a possibility for the right globe only, though it never stroked me as something people would be horny for (aside from young teenagers with otherwise extremely limited access to the internet). " sorta of, they risk getting reaction from either side if they admit to have done it for such reasons. either way they cornered themselves and it might not matter what they say now. Its a pretty sad situation. " no problem Oblivious
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In many mythologies, Gods transcend the mortal concept of gender. It's perfectly plausible for Lunaris to be the "male" counterpart to Solaris yet still be depicted as a - at first glance - female or androgynous statue (we don't know what's under the loin cloth).
Anyway, it's all pointless navel gazing. Bottom line is, the original globe art was intended to look cool, and it did. For many players, the change was for the worse and letting them revert to the old one would be a nice move from GGG. Everyone else can keep the new one. That's all. Shop closed until further notice. Check out my Dominus musical tribute instead:
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I have expressed my disappointment in the new UI elsewhere on the forums, but I will summarize it again here:
- The current Skull/Lion UI is too generic for PoE. - I am no artist so I will make no attempts at designing any mockups, your art team is more than capable of coming up with something awesome, thus players' disappointment with the current UI. - Please don't cut too far into the HP globe with whatever the design is. (Especially near the bottom part of the globe). TL;DR: There are good aspects of the new design, such as the detailed carvings in stone aesthetic, however I do not feel that rest of the design is adequately inspired by PoE / Awakening / Karui themed lore. I mean look at Kaom's tribal shield or pauldron, whatever that thing is (background image directly to the right), would be so much better than that stupid skull. I'll cross my fingers that the art team sees this post. I have other concerns with some of the art, MTX related mostly, but I'll hold my tongue for a more appropriate time. With  always, Odi Last edited by Odissius#5853 on Jul 18, 2015, 8:34:25 PM
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" It will be hard for you to prove me wrong when I say the highly subjective: "I hate the new orbs and I'd love for the old ones to be back". On the other hand, you can prove me wrong all and laugh at my other post that I wrote to mirror your "faultless" argumentation about the new orbs(and how much you liked them). P.S. As it seems that I am unable to use the report button, I must use this post to point out that I do not appreciate anyone talking about my parents in such a distasteful manner... I can only hope that mods will be following the topic. Last edited by ivkoto77777#0822 on Jul 19, 2015, 9:06:10 AM
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" It is pretty easy for me to prove you wrong when you say that the two pinups represent Lunaris and Solaris, though. " What was distasteful about comparing them to the women on the UI? You said you believed those women represented goddesses. Is comparing your parents to goddesses distasteful? I feel the simple fact you believe the comparison to be distasteful show quite well one of the problems with the previous UI. Please remove the chained naked women from the UI, thanks GGG!
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New globe ? What changed ?
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The thing is, you didn't prove him wrong you just said he's wrong and mentioned his parents sarcastically while doing so. Nobody actually cares about the lore, the old orbs just fit in better with the game thematically. I tried to explain why the orbs fit better with in game level design and real world mythologies. What you are doing here is attacking people by quoting phrases out of context and fighting straw men without reading previous posts by users and GGG.
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" Preference is not something you can argue away. We can't (and shouldn't be able to or even attempt to) argue your preference for the new UI away. If you like it, then that's good for you, but it's also your personal preference. In exactly the same way you can't argue away people's dissatisfaction with it, because it is personal preference. Why is it that some people in this thread seem to be out to get those who don't like the new UI? Yes, some analysis given is varying degrees of implausible, but no amount of arguing will change the dissatisfaction people have with the UI. Because of that, all these comments boil down to is a very dismissive and condescending "You can't dislike it and if you do you're wrong/an idiot". That's effectively non-constructive pollution of the thread. Even if you tried and managed to keep it respectful and on point and challenged only the plausibility of certain views based on what we know and based on your opinion, you still won't accomplish much, because we know very little and so rely on speculation. And because of that people can counter it with their own opinion, like Disrupted did for example, when he pointed out that there are drawbacks to saying anything other than what GGG has now said, and it would have the same credibility as your opinion. In addition to that, and even though perception and preference doesn't need to be based on them, there's a plethora of points of criticism of the new UI, and even if you could somehow "prove one wrong" you'd still change nothing. Do you realize that? |
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