The Awakening Item Page and Top-Tier Supporter Beta Access

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DalaiLama wrote:

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monkuar wrote:

Let's talk about vaal the boss for example.

Player 1 Starts the new league fresh and gets to vaal, dies from vaal smash because he had no idea that, that boss had that skill.

Player 2 Starts the new league (but had closed beta for 3 months and knows all all about vaal and his vaal smash skill). He dodges the smash and get's ahead of player 1 in the ladder.


Boom. Advantage and Pay 2 Win. (Especially since they've included supporters access to beta). Same logic applies here but with the new bosses in act 4.

Your example is logical and makes good sense at first look. It is incomplete though:

Player 2 - does have a slight advantage in being able to practice moving away from the Vaal smash with that character and his current movespeed and move skills(boots, gear% boost etc).

Player 1- can watch videos/streams of Vaal smash and get the gist of dodging it.
Player 1 - can read about Vaal smash and know to dodge it.

Here's the real proof of the flaw in your advantage argument"

Player 2 keeps getting killed because of falling rocks, because they rely solely on what she learns herself.

Player 1 reads in the forum about
A) getting close to Vaal when rocks fall
B) small rocks that do no damage showing likely place that a big rock is about to fall
Player 1 survives many more Vaal battles than player 2.

Player 2 could practice against vaal smash and read the forums, follow the streamers etc. BUT -

Player 1 can watch a different streamer or read another source of information every time player 2 is "practicing" against Vaal. If this is the case, than Player 1 will always have the advantage.

Information is real power, and the information of many outweighs the information of the few, or the one.

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monkuar wrote:

It's not my point of view. It's objective fact..

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monkuar wrote:

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Drumheller wrote:

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monkuar wrote:

Kind of like the nepotism type behavior that people who donated $ have access to beta, right? Much entitlement eh?

So we're all related to GGG staff now?

Perhaps you should read this:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nepotism

Do you have problems with comprehension? I'm talking about them favoring the supporters. That is nepotism.

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Benalishhero wrote:

It's impossible otherwise.

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DalaiLama wrote:

GGG favoring their customers would not be nepotism. GGG favoring their family or friends would be nepotism.

You may call it favortism, but that would be silly to accuse a business of doing something for its customers. Frequent flyer miles are a good example of something similar. I don't hear anyone calling those miles Fly to Win. GGG is giving people free airplane flights. Those not in the beta, just don't get to ride the Hindenburg/Concorde yet.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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Benalishhero wrote:

It's impossible otherwise.

You are right. It's not just a point of view. It's objective fact.

In other news, scientists everywhere are shutting down all research and spending money on getting top tier supporter packs, because they now know they can discover all the facts from the omniprescient posters in PoE forums.

Plus, its more fun to play Path of Exile then sit around waiting for data from the LHC.

So instead of this:



Science will be using this:



to determine the future of physics.

(there's actually a cool video of the Higg's Boson data being "played" on a guitar here:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SXEnDM3hydM