Auction House idea

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davidnn5 wrote:

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BerMalBerIst1 wrote:

WE do not want an "auction hall". Speak for yourself.

We have one. Two, actually - see below.

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BerMalBerIst1 wrote:

Trading for profit is already easy enough as-is. Market manipulation by the "elite" class in PoE would become even EASIER and MORE of a monopoly were automatic trade systems to be added to the game.

No, it wouldn't. There's not much more to say than that. You assume it would, but you and others discount the fact that the existing third party system is saving you potentially hours of staring at trade chat just to get any *one* item, and presuming that 1-2 minutes faster access to indexed items and cross-instance trading would ruin the market irrevocably.

Bunkum. Rot. Nonsense.

We already have an auction house for currency too. It's called the noticeboard (and it's faster even than poe.trade, generally, although limited by instances rather than world-spanning).

I'd also like to pose a few questions here: what would you do, and what would you expect other players to do, if the guy running poe.trade shut down his website 5 minutes from now? Would the effects on the market be his fault, or GGG's fault? Alternatively, what effect on the market and the game do you think poe.trade being infected by a trojan would have?

Both are feasible occurrences in the fullness of time.

Wow is nice that ur server community does use the Public Party Search as Auction Hall, sadly my server(garena) no one care about it =( sad .....

To clear the confusion ....

This auction hall system is far different from Diablo 3, is basically a auction hall without biding or RMT payment .... Actually in game we call it Agent Lady(female NPC)

It works like a normal vendor NPC with bunch of variety items that's supply from players AND with search option which make u easier to find item

I know you may ask why does it call "Auction" if it didn't have bidding system ... well what's they call it, i guess anything related to helps player to player trade they call it Auction? :?

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vironlawck wrote:

To clear the confusion ....

This auction hall system is far different from Diablo 3, is basically a auction hall without biding or RMT payment .... Actually in game we call it Agent Lady(female NPC)

It works like a normal vendor NPC with bunch of variety items that's supply from players AND with search option which make u easier to find item

I know you may ask why does it call "Auction" if it didn't have bidding system ... well what's they call it, i guess anything related to helps player to player trade they call it Auction? :?

I think a bidding system is exactly what we would need without a buyout option. Whats the point in making suggestions to changes to the current system if its not going to change how trades happen?

Do you rather go to 1 store and check all shelves or go to all stores and check one shelf? Thats the difference between the current system over an AH system.

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vangrandson wrote:

What, you want bots to reign supreme over the economy? Even more than they already do? You want to simulate the d3 desaster?

If no than stop posting that an auction house should be implemented.

Why was D3 a disaster? it worked for blizzard, they got filthy rich, so did many players. Then players whined about the AH and drop rates being shit so they removed the AH and introduced self found. So you want self found here? I would love that but GGG doesnt, so in a game based around trading there should be an AH.

How else am i gonna trade? Tell me please, i would love to hear it. But dont use things like "use trade chat" as that is a spam fest i cant bear to sit through and i want to play not sit around and do nothing but spam messages. Dont use something like "make a shop and use procurement and put it all up on poe.trade" as that is too tedious for me and i dont think a game should require 3rd party sites to supplement the trade system. Dont even mention "spam the noticeboard" as i think people should get 24h mutes for even posting on there as its clearly for monster slaying partying and not trade partying but im sure traders dont even try to make a distinction there.

I need an AH to easy and fast trading so i can play while my items sell themselves. If you want to live like yesterday, then please, go outside, trade an apple for an egg for a pen for a car for a house but dont tell me its not the same, as it is the exact same only that you are a trader here im sure so if the normal casual players can trade as good as you, prices drop and you lose profit.

Only trade pros want to hold back the AH, casual and noob friendly trading is what this games needs however and only an AH can provide that. And no one has ever brought any argument against an AH other than the D3 thing which isnt even connected to GGG or POE as GGG doesnt have nor want an RMTAH nor do they want a self found game.

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DirkAustin wrote:

I think a bidding system is exactly what we would need without a buyout option. Whats the point in making suggestions to changes to the current system if its not going to change how trades happen?

Do you rather go to 1 store and check all shelves or go to all stores and check one shelf? Thats the difference between the current system over an AH system.

Biding will cause instability price cause rich players will ruin it, i dun like though ... Thus player hard to check item actual price from there

Even there's no biding system, there will be a remain side-effect of biding(monopoly) in auction hall as ppl raise the price when there's no stock OR lower the price when many ppl can't afford it

Plus i want fast trade too, not to wait ppl bid finish then only can get wanted items .... which kinda SUX

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ment2008 wrote:

Trade Chats 1-20, is a sick anarchy and you need to stick and surf them for hours to locate something good, its bad system and i never using those.

Well POE.TRADE/XYZ aint a solution aswell.... you can't call it an auction house, its an off-site that may go off anytime, sametime a first time ever players starting to know about poe.trade so late and none of them trust offprograms like "Procurement"/"Acquisition".

Auction house is a great idea to the game as well as Graphic optimization, this 2 should be implanted ASAP

Ya is like searching coins from a pile of dirt ....


Off-topic
About the graphic optimization, ya I oso worry about in act 4, scare it will be more lag, especially for 32bit comp users

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saiyuri2 wrote:

To be honest I dont think an auction house is a good idea for PoE, especially the type pictured in the original post. I play Cabal and people ask outrageous amounts for their stuff when it isnt even worth the amount they ask. The AH is NOT monitored by the staff therefore allowing people to ask such outrageous prices. Also it creates an insane amount of lag due to the fact that everybody camps right next to the AH npc with all of their special effects items and what not and it lags severely. Now imagine that severe lag added to the bad lag already in PoE and you wont even be able to play. It is bad enough as it is now considering i use an old pc ( HP Pavilion windows vista version) and manage to play once in a while. Adding an AH to the mix will totally ruin it for those of us who have old pc's and cant afford a brand new machine just to play an ol game. So i say no to adding an AH

What do you mean by "people ask outrageous amounts for their stuff when it isnt even worth the amount they ask"? Sorry i dun understand that ....

When many ppl are in a town, a new instance will automatically created in town. Or GGG could make a new master just like Cabal Agent Lady so that ppl can hang out with her/him in their hideout, in case you really scare about lagging in town ...

I heard GGG ways planning to revamp the trade mechanic with something with SYNC ... is it to make item check price easier? Anyone heard more news/info about it?