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Which DPS is good for this build? I got 100k shaper dps in my POB is it ok?
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Enki91 wrote:

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jlh165 wrote:
When Agnerod West states +2 to added lightning gems, does that mean it would affect Added Lightning Damage Support and Lightning Penetration gems as well as Arc? If so I will strongly consider swapping to this and using a second 6L this league. I'll need to check with PoB to be certain. That would be about the equivalent of a L4 Empower and +2% lightning penetration.

Enki, Any thoughts?

Yeah it will affect any gems with the Lightning Tag. If you go for this, I would highly recommend to use Empower, Lv21 Arc + Lv3 Empower would be enough to reach Lv26 Arc for that 9th chain. Other question is if it's worth it compared to a rare weapon setup, unless of course you really want to try it.


I didn't even think about that. The extra chain would make it considerably more potent. I'll have to play around in PoB and weigh the dps against the defensive loss.

Well a brief look at PoB (ignoring shock effectiveness) has me at 302k shaper dps (was 250k with good Doryani's equipped). Switching Arc to an average Agnerod West, swapping my Fragility jewels for copies of my two rares, replacing Hypothermia with Empower L3, and simply moving my 6 weapon gems to my chest, I am at 361k dps. If I maxamize Agnerod West, I have 378k dps.

I don't have anymore time to continue this, but I'll post any findings along with pastebinds later today. I'm doing this in hopes Storm Brand is worth a 6L.

Edit: This entire line is dead in the water. I just tried using my Doryani's in my offhand and shot up to 421k dps and 437k dps if I dual wield my rare scepter. A second 6L simply would not be worth it.
Last edited by Aldonés#1294 on Dec 5, 2018, 2:51:07 PM
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Enki91 wrote:


Good to see the build is mostly unaffected by patch notes. I'm a little bit sad about a consequence of the stat stick nerf, if I understand it right it means we can't use Whirling Blades with Sceptre + Dagger which was the planned setup for 3.5, but i've ran the numbers and made some testing and found a good compromise.



I hate to make you answer this when you plan on updating everything tomorrow, what is your compromise? I am abandoning BV just because of this movement skill thing, the way I figure is shaped daggers and 1h swords are going to be uber expensive (since you will have to have 2 of them to use any decent movement skill).
I was thinking of maybe trying this build as a templar heirophant?

basically its removes the upgrades for golems (-40% damage -16% cast speed) and confluxes (-20% damage?)

arcane surge difference (-4% damage -3% cast speed)

total -64%damage -19% speed

For arcane surge on hit (50% extra damage 10% cast speed)
meaning you could possibly use conductivity or elemental weakness in it place (39%-44% enemy res)
or 2 brands? depending how they are...

also more surviveabitly with more mana and 10% extra damage to mana first.


i think overall damage is reduced slightly possibly? but surviveabilty is up which could help with bosses. someone that has more knowledge could make this work better, what does everyone think?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/3.4.0/AAAABAUCABzcEFiXLQj0TwRZ848aogBBh5Rv3Yy86mpDFr9b02ZUAuM1kvMRpwhsCzbF2L2DzOTssUILYfnoahs64cauVca1hbc-IvRxYriTUEJG1_AfPC2ePlNS7-uhL9WmA5rgEnIP2rl1Kr1dgY9JT5rgjDbBtIPbrJgmldpiHwI8740ZSbJboBhWhTLYJDD4vopodBbzRZ0YXVZIVUsaOIKbrv0EB4LHdhGu_zrYLJyDX18q_o8mPP6zdFWQVXwObRktfWHipldN46dV8kXr5P4KKyZo8icvr2x-rwel71DsLnGFQ8i8qjsNKPpTNS-dMjQRD9lf6-6TJw==
Last edited by trebor1009#3673 on Dec 5, 2018, 2:21:09 PM
@Crysthal
Unfortunately no, it would require a completely different setup to be worth it. A Lowlife Occultist could be pretty good, going for Vile Bastion and Malediction and stacking curses + curse effect. Profane Bloom would somewhat make up for the loss of Inpulsa's in that setup, not as reliably but should still be enough to clear fast.

@ad_astra_13
You probably didn't have all the options for burst DPS checked. The current setup reached around 450-500k Shaper DPS with average gear and 20/20 gems, the 3.5 setup will get to 600-700k with the same low investment.

@jlh165
Just noticed i've made a little mistake, would still need Lv4 Empower instead of Lv3 to reach Lv26 Arc.

@snwkill
Gotta have to ask you to be a little more patient. The approach i'll be going for is probably not the best for BV due to different scaling.

@trebor1009
This would actually turn out as a huge damage loss just due to how strong Beacon of Ruin is. Without that node, we wouldn't be able to shock endgame bosses for high damage increases and would have to switch Hypothermia for a less strong support. To put it into perspective, this would drop my highend 3.5 test setup from 1.9m DPS to 900k DPS.
twitch.tv/enkivt
I've found that Flame Dash is also not too terrible for movement after its recent buffs. What are your thoughts on it?
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Enki91 wrote:
Gotta have to ask you to be a little more patient. The approach i'll be going for is probably not the best for BV due to different scaling.


No Problem! Haha... sounds like lightning warp when you say it that way. Which is what I was leaning towards (for this build obviously, the more skill duration nodes for BV would be terrible with LW) but I will wait!
Last edited by snwkill#2804 on Dec 5, 2018, 3:03:14 PM
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Enki91 wrote:

@jlh165
Just noticed i've made a little mistake, would still need Lv4 Empower instead of Lv3 to reach Lv26 Arc.


In any case, I just checked it against dual wielding what I already own, and simply put I am no longer considering a staff, lol. I look forward to your edited guide tomorrow!
Last edited by Aldonés#1294 on Dec 5, 2018, 2:56:02 PM
Would singularity unique sceptre work well with this build? playing ssf here.

Very excited for the 3.5 update, will be my first Arc Witch :)

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