Cheap, Tanky, DPSy: Summon Raging Spirit [not updated for 1.3+]

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Grownupfun wrote:

From the Beyond testimony on the front page. He says he can get 8K "Life" Buffer. Does he mean actual Life and if so any idea what he's using to get that in Beyond? I'm sure he's grabbing a hefty amount of Life nodes, obv. Belly of the Beast?

Ekunholy used the build described in OP and posted his gear on page 42 (noted in his write up). Obviously 8k HP and 5K ES and Belly of the Beast, probably legacy Kaom and a Vaal Regalia too, totally.

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MatrixFactor wrote:

Move speed on SRS is important, see the link in my signature.

You should buy gems with 10%+ and level those rather than buying 0% ones.

If you have a 0% L20 gem whether you GCP recipe or not depends on whether you can afford it. IMO you should just suck it up and use 20 GCPs, and try to get L21. If you're just doing ~L75 maps though, then GCP reciping it would be fine.

You should always be leveling gems in your backup gear, especially skill and aura gems (the support gems are much less important as they are less sensitive to level - see below). And actively rotate these gems with your main gear.

With some planning you would have a level 18-19 SRS gem ready in your backup gear when your main gem hits 20, and then:
1) Q20 your level 20, put it in your backup gear and replace it by the 18-19/0 from the back up gear
2) when the 19/0 becomes 20, Q20 it, put it in your backup gear and replace it by the back up gem (which is now 18/20 or so)
3) when the 18/20 becomes 20/20 Vaal it, if it becomes 21/20 you are done if not sell it, get the gem from your backup gear (which should be 18/20 now) and stick a new 1/0 in your backup gear (or a 1/10 or so if you can cheaply get one).

You should really try to rotate SRS as much as possible, but also Clarity (you want 21/0), Arctic Armour (21/20), Haste (21/20, hopefully giving you a 20/20 Vaal Haste somewhere in the process), Discipline (21/0), Reduced Mana (21/0). Once these 6 are done, start on Blood Magic (21/0)

Because you only have 6 spots in your back-up gear, support gems and gems like Spell Totem, Arc, Flesh Offering should just be leveled to 20/20 and then Vaaled. If they become 21/20 keep them, if not sell them and place a new 1/0 in there (or a 1/10 or so if you can cheaply buy one). This is because the difference between a 20/20 support gem and its replacement (which will be 15/0 in an hour or so) is quite small. E.g. Multistrike is 107 Attack Speed/67 Increased Damage at 20/20, 102/42 at level 15/0, and 102/47 for a 15/10 (if you bought a Q10 one). Given the vast damage you already do you will hardly notice the difference.

I find that continously Vaaling and selling will eventually give you a bunch of 21 gems, but also a lot of cashflow from selling gems, which is basically free money, at the cost of having a slightly weaker character. Given that the build is quite strong already (I have never seen Dominus melt in 2 seconds) this cost is acceptable.

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ekunholy wrote:

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mezmery wrote:

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ekunholy wrote:

It wouldn't be oneshot but still painful

portal somewhere near and its done )

your atziri didnt went as well as intended?

you can check long story about my beyond character in 1st post :)

really nice story.
got heart attack when abaxoth emerged once, didnt try to do it, cause of hard map modes and 76 map

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Flapdrol wrote:

I find that continously Vaaling and selling will eventually give you a bunch of 21 gems, but also a lot of cashflow from selling gems, which is basically free money, at the cost of having a slightly weaker character. Given that the build is quite strong already (I have never seen Dominus melt in 2 seconds) this cost is acceptable.

Although 15 is like super fast, it's still quite long to get a gem to 20, any idea how you optimize gem experience gain?

Is it better to do like low level maps super fast (<3mn, only running the ones with straight lines) or to run high maps but slower (10mn+)?

Do the fail vaaled ones sell easily?

I actually meant HP+ES combined when wrote up "life", thats why i used quotes.
Sorry for confusion. :)
This is direct link to my post with tree, gear and stats.

About gems:
Poe wiki: gems
Poe wiki: monster exp

As you can see there is 0 exp penalty for gems, so you only care about base amount experience given by monster. Higher lvl monster would give more exp, bigger and dangerous monster would have even bigger exp reward.

I suggest to choose map lvl that you feel comfortable with, and run only open area maps for faster clear speed: Courtyard, Shrine, Shipyard, Precinct, Bazaar, Plateau, Gorge, Dark forest, Canyon, Dry Pen. etc.
Roll it with alts, for best exp it should be high pack size but high magic monsters would give some more map drops. Chisels and Regals for 76+ (or 77\78 if ur map pool is good).

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Flapdrol wrote:

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MatrixFactor wrote:

Move speed on SRS is important, see the link in my signature.

You should buy gems with 10%+ and level those rather than buying 0% ones.

If you have a 0% L20 gem whether you GCP recipe or not depends on whether you can afford it. IMO you should just suck it up and use 20 GCPs, and try to get L21. If you're just doing ~L75 maps though, then GCP reciping it would be fine.

Words about Gems

This is awesome advice! Thank you very very much. This thread has been a godsend for learning about the game.

can you discribe your abaxoth experience?
maximum damage spikes and so on.

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Squirrel_of_doom wrote:

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Flapdrol wrote:

I find that continously Vaaling and selling will eventually give you a bunch of 21 gems, but also a lot of cashflow from selling gems, which is basically free money, at the cost of having a slightly weaker character. Given that the build is quite strong already (I have never seen Dominus melt in 2 seconds) this cost is acceptable.

Although 15 is like super fast, it's still quite long to get a gem to 20, any idea how you optimize gem experience gain?

Is it better to do like low level maps super fast (<3mn, only running the ones with straight lines) or to run high maps but slower (10mn+)?

Do the fail vaaled ones sell easily?

I don't optimize gem gain at all: I play for MF or for character XP or for fun. The gems do their own thing.

Vaaled gems sell reasonably well if you dont ask too much (exception: most Vaal gems).

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MatrixFactor wrote:

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Grownupfun wrote:

From the Beyond testimony on the front page. He says he can get 8K "Life" Buffer. Does he mean actual Life and if so any idea what he's using to get that in Beyond? I'm sure he's grabbing a hefty amount of Life nodes, obv. Belly of the Beast?

Ekunholy used the build described in OP and posted his gear on page 42 (noted in his write up). Obviously 8k HP and 5K ES and Belly of the Beast, probably legacy Kaom and a Vaal Regalia too, totally.

Yeah, I missed the link in his description, my bad. And thanks... I thought 8k Life was absurd in regards to everything else, but the wording through me off. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways oh wise one.

Seriously, I enjoy the build and you have a great well written guide, thanks!

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ekunholy wrote:

Preparing my srs'er for atziri

stats

gear

tree

tree link

Added fire L17 Q15 lvling in swap, and i'm buying more lvled vaal haste atm
Lvl 1 desecrate would work iirc

Proper flasks is not a prob, and i've got rumi's yesterday

I've tried 78 palace dom, it took only 2 seconds to kill him, so i think my dps is good enough

Did i miss anything important that would be crucial on atziri run?

I'm not seeing any source of +1 Curse, did you forget to put it on the Tree? Or do you actually just single curse, swapping back and forth as you see fit between Enfeeble & EW? Thanks