Cheap, Tanky, DPSy: Summon Raging Spirit [not updated for 1.3+]

Is that DPS really legit by the way? At the staff comparisons it ranges from 300-500k, that's pretty amazing.

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MatrixFactor wrote:

I plan to use a life/es hybrid build. Not going to take Eldritch Battery. Then I will use AA and Immortal Call. I'm not planning to get either one of IR or MoM from tree.

Ahhhh missed that edit on the first post. Took a look at the trees posted. Nice. The one with more damage can save a point by not traveling the bottom and connecting it by where inner force use to be.

I'm curious how that would meld compared to the possible 40% reduced damage from mana. I suppose if you have 1000-1200 ES then that would be comparable to MoM. So, as long as you can get greater than that it'd be a win. Time to check my gear :)

With discipline this would be easy to achieve but I'm not sure there is enough mana reservation. You would need 1530 mana to run lvl20 clarity (equal to level 24 with the new mana reservation) haste, hatred and discipline with reduced mana. You'd have 1 mana left. If you have alpha's howl you'll have 167 mana left but you'd lose ES and Life and extra resists... So, it'll be without discipline. Vaal discipline however will be useful.

One calculation I'd wonder about as well is what if you remove the life/mana nodes deep thoughts and cruel preparation. 6 nodes. Invest 3 into Dynamo (16% reduced mana cost 16% increased mana) and the other 3 can go into life wheel for equal life value. At what point would one be better than the other. (discounting reservation needs)

Actually, probably 2 into life wheel and you'll need at least one into a +30 Dex node. Very low dex.

Would this build work fine without EE? Really want to give this build a go, but my friend is going an Arc build.. This wont really work so well in conjunction with that if I go EE.

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Taintertots wrote:

Would this build work fine without EE? Really want to give this build a go, but my friend is going an Arc build.. This wont really work so well in conjunction with that if I go EE.

Sure the shock from arc is stronger than the resist penetration.

Would like to submit my Beyond SRS build for consideration. I really appreciate the time everyone has put into this discussion particularly the DPS calcuations - however i haven't seen much mention of HC so I figured I'd throw my hat in.

I too was quite enamored with the concept of hybrid but at least for the beginning until bosses are more well known I think that a very high life pool in tandem with new OP flasks + flask effect is going to be safer than hybrid. When considering the flat life %'s I agree that Thick Skin/Herbalism aren't the most point efficient but when you take into account flask effect and the massive armor from grace + IR in a HC context...



http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA34rpAv6zVyu9gm0ZCPR9GMBU7Ipr22pDLJxMsxEtLR8EB3yDlSDr5IPbzfrB818qVca4k4IeOlinCOvu2wva3Z2umuAo-hpsRZ2YrYLHFm-mrFNS-ejT-ySqQYeofTbptz5akeNq-tL-CmqsZp4XL_JF2L3AGmTnOuE1kpBVWfNV1qZXtfL-j6eErKqApE3jbqoaODOHJ-1KyF-YHb78Sz8nWW0D7mwWKk3PMocZFSAi4izpR-LdDdCBW6_8xaQ5TipW-megKaXuDod2o4pKfSP2TZKNfYbRJLC86g==

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMA34rpAv6zVyu9gm0ZCPR9GMBU7Ipr22pDLJxMsxEtLR8EB3yDlSDr5IPbzfrB818qVca4k4IeOlinCOvu2wva3Z2umuAo-hpsRZ2YrYLHFm-mrFNS-ejT-ySqQYeofTbptz5akeNq-tL-CmqsZp4XL_JF2L3AGmTnOuE1kpBVWfNV1qZXtfL-j6eErKqApE3jbqoaODOHJ-1KyF-YHb78Sz8nWW0D7mwWKk3PMocZFSAi4izpR-LdDdCBW6_8xaQ5TipW-megKaXuDod2o4pKfSP2TZKNfYbRJLC86g==

Pros:

218% life
154 dex
80% life recovery from flasks
retains IR


Cons:

14% reduced mana reserved
22% aura effect
no harrier

Thoughts? Also, here is my end game link setup:


helm - discipline - clarity - red mana - haste/hatred/grace (still not sure on auras, this discussion may have tipped me away from discipline)

weapon1 - faster attacks/faster casting - leap slam/lightning warp - arc
weapon2 - desecrate - enfeeble - faster cast

shield1 - spell totem - nolinkzombies/blind - skeletons
shield 2 - power siphon - item rarity - faster attacks

chest - SRS - multi - echo - splash - minion damage - mpd

gloves inc dura - AA - vaal haste - flesh offering

boots - cwdt - increased - immortal call - enduring cry

Cheers folks

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sherkhan wrote:

@madcow

For eb+mom, you'd basically look for the exact same gear as you would for hybrid. However, 500ish free mana will be replaced by 2k+ es (my 1.5k free mana went to 4.7k es pre-1.2)

yep, I currently play it using MoM so I get that. Didn't really look into the es/life idea much but with the hybrid nodes it makes sense. Just need more ES than one would have free mana to see that would be a better variant. I think I may adapt to that.

That would mean an ES chest (with MoM I use ev/es) with life would be ideal. I got that in my stash somewhere.

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willsanquil wrote:

helm - discipline - clarity - red mana - haste/hatred/grace (still not sure on auras, this discussion may have tipped me away from discipline)

weapon1 - faster attacks/faster casting - leap slam/lightning warp - arc
weapon2 - desecrate - enfeeble - faster cast

shield1 - spell totem - nolinkzombies/blind - skeletons
shield 2 - power siphon - item rarity - faster attacks

chest - SRS - multi - echo - splash - minion damage - mpd

gloves inc dura - AA - vaal haste - flesh offering

boots - cwdt - increased - immortal call - enduring cry

LW doesn't work well when you take increased skill effect duration in tree.

Discipline is a mistake if you are using eldritch battery. You need more -mana reservation to even consider it.

I personally don't enjoy hard core, because survivability at almost all costs is just too boring for me. For instance it seems that in a hardcore setting you would have to give up haste in order to run a defensive aura. The build is already so tanky, but because it's hardcore you have to go from 95% certainty that you won't die to 99%. The sacrifices you make to get those last 4% are just boring to me.

I wouldn't bother with the trek to IR, and just go for something simple like this:

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAvYJXK_6z6QLfim0ZakPAVAj0vOpr230Y7IpMswQHXyrr5FXGg9s6WBzcDY1sCyL0wcV_xtsLgh6IQi9v2RNwu-wYSbHXz_k374iTJyj6V8kNfOq6tAyYrfnogsdqrFqRqH3T-wZJU1JFnZrg6-6ApCSwhtEXL_rSVdZk5-NqNukWbySqGjinhJBVwBpmngPuHb4zh6yqWfOHGWwW_Esn7bXyNZLYvf4Ktz5Bh0rIbqrPMlltX5jE9jwtxq4dquGIRnGDCaZXTeP-jzrh8kVJUfDVj_oHHpUu

Use arctic armor and cwdt ec ic instead of IR.

If you do get IR and only run two auras+clarity, then cloak of defiance is a good option.

I'm gonna play a slightely different version of it in Beyond, gonna post my progression here so people can see this build in Hardcore. (if it works ofc.)

Hey guys,

Just let me know if any of you wants to mirror this chest after patch. Cheers.

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BisuProbe wrote:

from my experience if u are also using animate weapons and diligently casting those, once u amass a sizable amount the weapons will kill off the mobs before you even start churning out SRS lol. and you only need 4 L for that and they make decent damage soaks too. vaal skeletons are also great.

Animate Weapons with this build is good, especially if you add Vaal Haste. And like they said, only a 4L.